This is an email history of the research of Chird Bobbitt's genealogy line by Marsha Berry, Eileen Sears, and Chird Bobbitt

The DNA Loci Designation DYS # and Y-Chromosome Allele results for Chird's line is...

Loci DYS 393 DYS 390 DYS 19 DYS 391 DYS 385a DYS 385b DYS 426 DYS 388 DYS 439 DYS 389-1 DYS 392 DYS 389-2
Allele 13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29
Results 13 25 14 11 11 14 ? ? 12 13 13 29
 

Two people who have shared their DNA results with us are of this line.

This email was sent by Marsha Berry on April 2, 2010 and was addressed to Eileen Sears, Chird Bobbitt, and Keith Bobbitt.

Hello Chird,
 
I would like to request that from now on that Eileen Sears, Keith Bobbitt, and my email addresses are included on all of our email correspondence to each other. I like it that Eileen, Keith, and I can work with you Chird.  The more input the better.
 
After Eileen and I completed my Bobbet in Suffolk County, England research in 2009, I asked Eileen if she would be willing... to research as she did for me an English speaking Bobbitt line.  She said she would.  Eileen is a great genealogy researcher, a former best student of BYU's genealogy instructor Dr. Amy Harris who I hired in the past and highly recommended Eileen to me.  Eileen is good to work with. Eileen has access to the BYU Family History Center and Library and the Salt Lake City, Utah Family History Library.
 
Eileen, introducing Chird Bobbitt who wants to find his real Bobbitt ancestry in and beyond Arkansas.
 
Chird, I would like to help you and Eileen as a go-between girl as I live about 20 minutes from Eileen.
 
Eileen, Chird's Y-DNA is completely different from Keith's and my Bobbitt cousin that did his Y-DNA in 2000, so we are not related.
 
Chird has a Bobbitt cousin William Isaac Bobbitt that matches Chird's Y-DNA.  Chird. what does your cousin William know about your and his Bobbitt genealogy?
 
Eileen, Chird asked me 2 questions on his profile on Facebook:
1.  How many hours should I start with?
2.  What would she need of me?
 
Marsha's Answer to number 1. Eileen and Chird can decide this one.
As a suggestion, I had a ... (dollar amount) ... ceiling and we met together when that ceiling was reached and Eileen gave me her research results of who and what I had asked her to research about every other month, then we went from there.  You can choose any amount for a ceiling. I suggest you take your time with this and do the research in small steps at a time as it could get too big to do it on a one-time basis.
 
Marsha's Answer to number 2:  Another one Eileen and Chird can decide on.
As a suggestion, I would always have a written list of genealogy I wanted researched to give to Eileen and provided Eileen with as much paper trail as I could.
 
Chird, I hope it is ok with you I share the following of your Bobbitt genealogy for Eileen and Keith to peruse.
Let all of us know of any corrections. 
My sources are:  US Soc Sec Death Index for Earl Willard Bobbitt, Lelia Inez Harbert Bobbitt, and Flemon Benjamin Bobbitt.
rootsweb family tree of Pepper-Lomax, by Clifton Pepper ...  in 2006 and I have not contacted Clifton Pepper.
and Chird's Bobbitt Family web page.
Chird, on 1 April 2010, I put your Chird Bobbitt Genealogy on my PAF 5.2 program with 18 of your family thus far.
 
The below is Chird's Bobbitt pedigree:
 
Chird Bobbitt's father is Earl Willard Bobbitt born 26 Jan 1921 Bald Knob, White, Arkansas.
Earl married Lelia Inez Harbert 15 Oct 1940 White County, Arkansas
Lelia was born 5 Dec 1908 Morris Chapel, Hardin, Tennessee.
Earl Willard Bobbitt died 20 May 1993 South Bend, St. Joseph,
Indiana. Lelia died Dec 1993 Judsonia, White, Arkansas
 
Chird's grandfather is Flemon Benjamin Bobbitt born 27 May 1896, Craighead County, Arkansas
Flemon married Mary Tenise Watkins 18 Jul 1919 Judsonia, White, Arkansas.
Mary was born 8 Aug 1899 White County, Arkansas and died 19 June 1927.
Flemon Benjamin Bobbitt died 22 Feb 1987 White County, Arkansas
 
Chird's great grandfather is John Wesley Bobbitt born 1861
Craighead County, Arkansas
John married Mary Kitchens 22 June 1893 Batesville, Independence, Arkansas
Mary was born 1867 Arkansas and died 1911 Arkansas
John died 1897 Eureka Springs, Carroll, Arkansas
 
Chird's great great grandfather is Moses L. Bobbitt born 1828 Carroll County,  Arkansas 
Moses married Rachel about 1860 in Carroll County, Arkansas
Rachel was born 1829 in Tennessee
Also Moses's mother and widow Lydia Locicia Bobbitt was with Moses and Rachel.
Moses died in Craighead County, Arkansas.
 
Chird, please share your story of Orphans Flemon Bobbitt and
Harry Churchill, Arkansas web pages.
 
Chird, please remember to email Eileen, Keith Bobbitt, and I as you now have all of our email addresses.  Thank you.
 
 
Regards,
Marsha



Email sent by Chird Bobbitt to Marsha Berry, Eileen Sears, Keith Bobbitt
April 2, 2010

Marsha, Eileen & Keith
 
This all sounds great!
 
 
Everyone: My father was Flemon Benjamin Bobbitt
 
My half-brother by my dad's first marriage to Mary Tenise? Watkins was Earl Willard Bobbitt
 
Flemon Benjamin Bobbitt my father married my mother Leila Inez harbert after his first wife died
 
I visited the courthouse in Craighead County and made copies of all marriage records with any spelling of Bobbitt
 
Most if not all of them will be my relatives

http://www.bobbittville.com/Bobbitt-Orphan.htm
 
More later
 
Chird


Email sent by Marsha Berry to Chird Bobbitt, Eileen Sears, Keith Bobbitt
April 3, 2010

Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Chird, I have made the corrections to your Bobbitt pedigree that you
sent in your Friday, 2 April 2010 email on my PAF 5.2 Chird Bobbitt
genealogy file,  Thank you Chird for noting the 2006 rootsweb
Pepper-Lomax Tree by Clifton Pepper was in error on who is your
father..
This is why direct line son to father genealogy is best.
 
Regards,
Marsha 


Email by Marsha Berry
April 5, 2010
 
Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
I appreciated Chird giving us his Bobbitt pedigree.  Thank you Chird.
I filled in some dates and rechecked data on my PAF 5.2 Chird Bobbitt Genealogy file.
 
When Chird's pedigree included Simpson Bobbitt born about 1788 in North Carolina, a Red Flag went up in my head. 
 
That same Red Flag went up in the Pepper-Lomax rootsweb tree that has the following: 
 
Simpson Bobbitt is the son of
John Bobbitt born 1762 Warren County, North Carolina and died 1828 Moore County, North Carolina and Mary Hazelwood.
 
The father of John Bobbitt is Drury Bobbitt born 1744 Edgewood County, North Carolina and mother is Elizabeth Harris.
 
The grandfather is John Richard Bobbitt born 1725 Bertie County, North Carolina and grandmother is Amy Alston born 1730 Bertie County, North Carolina.
 
Please note:  John Richard Bobbitt and Amy Alston are Marsha Berry's direct blood line, her 5th great grandparents, which has been Y-DNA tested by Marsha's Bobbitt cousin Frank Bobbitt and Keith has this identified on his web sites as Private or Marsha Berry. 
 
Drury Bobbitt who married Elizabeth Harris.
One of Drury's brothers is Isham Drury Bobbitt who is Marsha's 4th great grandfather.
 
Remember Marsha's Bobbitt cousin and Keith's Bobbitt Y-DNA have a perfect 12 alleles match.
 
Remember Chird's Y-DNA 12 alleles do not match Marsha and Keith's Y-DNA.  Chird's family is a completely different family.
 
Question:
1.  Who is Simpson Bobbitt and what document is there that states he is the husband of widow Lydia Ludicia Bobbitt?
A marriage document?
 
2.  Where was Simpson Bobbitt really born?  Just perusing the internet, there were 4 places given by various people on various sites, but I will mention one example of each because of the paper trail existence of a John Bobbit who could be the father.
  
A. From the Pepper-Lomax Tree: Simpson was born 1788 in North Carolina
 
B. From Chird, 1830 Census, Maury County, Tennessee : Simpson was born in Maury County, Tennessee
Note: Gives head of household with male and various ages, but no names, so no proof here.
 
C. From the ancestry Martin-Dunn-OBrian-McClure-Chambless-Fleming Tree,  Simpson was born 1788 in Monroe, Amherst, Virginia
 
D. Akers Family includes researchers Chird Bobbitt, Bill Couch, Rose M. Spencer; Simpson was born 1780 in Alabama.  Assumed as wife born in Alabama then Simpson was born in Alabama.
 
The 1860 Census says 80 year old Lucida Bobbit was born in Alabama.
 
1860 US Census
Big Creek Township, Craighead, Arkansas
400/400 Moses L. Bobbit age 27 born Tennessee Farmer Cannot read or write
Rachel Bobbit age 21 born Tennessee
William H Bobbit age 16 born Arkansas
Moses B. Bobbit age 12 born Arkansas
Mary J Bobbit age 10 born Arkansas
James R Bobbit age 8 born Arkansas
Buch L Bobbit age 7 born Arkansas
Lodica Bobbit age 6 born Arkansas
Caroline Bobbit age 3 born Arkansas
Lewis C. Bobbit age 1 born Arkansas
Lucida Bobbit age 80 born Alabama
 
Note:  A lot more research needs to be done.
Please note in the 1860 census, Moses and Rachel cannot read or write. 
 
The research challenge for Eileen is:
Which of the 4 birth places for Simpson Bobbitt is the correct one?
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email from Marsha Berry
April 6, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Please keep in mind all the time as it is very important.
Chird's Bobbitt Y-DNA results are completely different than Marsha's and Keith's Bobbitt line from Warren County, North Carolina Y-DNA results. 
 
This is Marsha's Bobbitt line in the 1790 Warren County, North Carolina Census and they are accounted for:
Drury Bobbitt - 2 males, 3 females, 9 slaves 
son of Richard Bobbitt and Amy Alston
John Bobbitt -  1 male, 2 slaves
John Richard Bobbitt husband of Amy Alston
John Bobbitt - 2 males, 1 female, 8 slaves 
son of John Richard Bobbitt and Amy Alston
Joshua Bobbitt - 2 males, 1 female, 2 slaves 
son of John Richard Bobbitt and Amy Alston
Randolph Bobbitt -  3 males, 1 female, 0 slaves
son of John Richard Bobbitt and Amy Alston
Stephen Bobbitt -  6 males, 3 females, 4 slaves
son of John Richard Bobbitt and Amy Alston
 
This is Keith's Bobbitt line in the 1790 Warren County, North Carolina Census and they are accounted for:
Lewis Bobbitt - 5 males, 4 females, 1 slave 
son of Lewis Bobbitt and Elizabeth Moore
Miles Bobbitt -  3 males, 6 females, 0 slaves
son of Lewis Bobbitt and Elizabeth Moore
 
Simpson Bobbitt born 1788 in Warren County, North Carolina?
North Carolina could be the state, but not Warren County.
Something is wrong here.  That red flag keeps appearing in my mind at this point. 
 
Copying John W. Bobbitt's book does not work.  It is a great source but...
 
Chird, I very much appreciate your web site and your input to get to know your Bobbitt line.
 
This is why we are researchig a paper trail of your own.  I am looking at all possibilities ouside of what you are used to.
 
In the 1790 Franklin County, North Carolina Census
I think we have a strong possibility this could be Chird's line:
 
John Bobbitt
1 male under 16 which could match Simpson b.1788
2 males over 16
1 female over 16
12 slaves
4 in household
 
This John Bobbitt is a well-to-do man with 12 slaves.
Does this fit your Bobbitt family in 1790?
It would be to your advantage if it did, because a rich
man is easier to research.
 
There are other Bobbitts in the 1790 Franklin County, North Carolina Census:
 
Turner Bobbitt - 2 males, 2 females, 2 slaves
William Bobbitt - 5 males, 2 females, 1 slave
Wm Bobbitt - 2 males, 2 females, 0 slaves
 
Maybe this is a good lead and maybe it is not.
What I am doing is exploring a lot of possibilites, hopefully more right than wrong, from Chird who knows his family best and other people who have Chird's genealogy online
 
We need Eileen Sears to read all of our emails to catch up with us and get in touch with us.
 
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email from Marsha Berry
April 6, 2010

Chird,
You are quoting "The Bobbitt Family in America," which is in error.
 
I have all of my Bobbitt family members in Warren County, North Carolina with all of the documentation as well as family records like our William W. Bobbitt and Isham Drury Bobbitt Junior in Putnam County, Illinois Bible, which goes back to our immigrant ancestor.
Source:  You have my Bobbitt book, Bible pages 242-252.
 
The John Bobbitt in the 1790 Franklin County, North Carolina Census is not from my Warren County, North Carolina family.
 
It is "The Bobbitt Family in America" book that forces a relationship to my family which did not exist.
 
Chird, I did not know of "The Bobbitt Family of America" book, not until about 2 or 3 years before 2007.
 
My family had Bobbitt family Bibles and documents and Bobbet Suffolk County, England family heirlooms, photos, a Y-DNA 12 alleles result from my cousin Frank Bobbitt in 2000 to match our Suffolk Co England paper trail, etc.
Source:  Y-DNA pages 195-202 my Bobbitt book
And, the author of "The Bobbitt Family of America"
did not contact me or any of my relatives like Karen Shank living in north Illinois about my family, either because he did not know about us even though relatives were still in Putnam County, Illinois and northern Illinois and Iowa or did not have room in his book for us.
 
Source:  Karen Shank's 14 April 2007 email to me and what I said to her,  pages 258 and 259 in my Bobbitt book, The Bobbitt Family of Putnam County, Illinois with Bobbet ancestors from Suffolk County, England.
You have a copy of my book so you can read this.
 
Regards,
Marsha
 
 
On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 5:53 PM,  wrote:
 
http://keithbobbitt.com/bookelevyn/pp301-333_iv0032.htm



Email by Marsha Berry
April 8, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
This is Chird Bobbitt's Bobbitt time line using the US Census,
the book The Ties That Bind, and Carroll County, Tennessee and Maury County, Tennessee and Craighead County, Arkansas histories and county formation maps.
 
Eileen, if you are around and read my email. I am extremely close to needing your help at the BYU Library and the Salt Lake City Utah Family History Library.  Please email me and please include Chird Bobbitt and Keith Bobbitt when you do so.
 
Our 1st Goal:  Our goal for Marsha and hopefully Eileen is to go beyond the below information and find out where John Bobbitt who has 16 slaves, and we would assume is a rich man because he has 16 slaves, comes from before the 1790 US Census in Franklin County, North Carolina.
He would not come from Warren County, North Carolina, but would come from another location or state.
 
1790 US Census, Franklin County, North Carolina
John Bobbitt
1 male under age 16 - could be Simpson Bobbitt as he was born in 1788
2 males age 16 or older
1 female
16 Slaves
 
Chird sent Marsha this 1810 US Census. Great find Chird!!
1810 US Census, Warren County, Kentucky
Age one male is 1
Age one female is 4
Age one to 16 male is 1
Age one to 16 female is 1
Note:  If age 16 was born in 1794
Age 26 to 44 males is 1
Age 26 to 45 females is 1
Note:  If age 26 was born 1784 - Clayborne Bobbitt
If nearer age 44 was born 1764 - Clayborne Bobbitt would be
John Bobbitt's brother
6 Slaves
 
John Bobbitt
Age 45 and up for male and female
Note: If age 45 are born in 1765
 
1876, Township 50, Howard County, Missouri
Missouri State Census
Claiborn Bobbitt
 
From 137 MMS Manuscripts and Folklife Archives - Kentucky
Library and Museum - Western Kentucky University
 
#;  Plantiff;  Defendant;  Filed;  #;  Items;  Comments
 
4
79; Bobbitt, John/Hendrick, Obediah; 1813; 4; suit to recover slaves: Mima, Arthur, Jonathan and Betsy who were used as collateral for a note of $400
 
16
320; Bobbitt, Claborn/Johnson, William; Caldwell, Samuel/Gray, Joseph; 1819; 10; land dispute
 
23
451; Bobbitt/Clabourn/Bobbitt, John;  Greer, Aquilla; 1821; 29; payment of $3000 loan and use and ownership of slave during time of loan; item #1 mutulated and in downsize box

26
499; Bobbitt, John; Allen, Isaiah; 1824; 5; sale of slaves: one woman and 2 children
 
1820 US Census, Warren County, Kentucky
John Bobbitt
 
Note:  Where is Simpson Bobbitt in 1810 as would be 22
years old?
He may be traveling from place to place between Kentucky and Tennessee.
 
Search for Simpson Bobbitt and his brother _________:
 
During the 1810 to 1821 and almost 1830 time period there was a surveyor named Bobbitt who surveyed the Indian Lands and then especially the Western District of Tennessee that in 1821 a new Tennessee county was formed, Carroll County,  to near 1830.
 
A strong possibility the surveyor is _______ Bobbitt, the brother of Simpson Bobbitt in Maury County, Tennessee and this _________ Bobbitt's supposed widow and wife is Dsa as her husband is not present at the time of the census
ages 30 to 40 female - 1 is in the 1830 US Census for Carroll County, Tennessee.
Note:  The complete 1830 Carroll County, Tennessee Census for Dsa Bobbitt is below in this email for comparison to the 1830 Maury County, Tennessee Census for Simpson Bobbitt.
 
A Bobbitt received a grant from the government and contructed a pond between the Pond Branch and the Sandy River known as "Bobbitt's Pond," south of the Pond Branch Bridge.
 
1810  Carroll County, Tennessee was not formed and the area was called Indian Lands on the map.
 
1817 Carroll County, Tennessee was not formed and the area was called Indian Lands on the map.
 
1819 Carroll County, Tennessee was not formed and the area was called the Western District on the map.
 
1821 Carroll County, Tennessee is formed a county out of the Western District.
The Tennessee General Assembly created Carrroll County on
7 November 1821 from the 19 October 1818 Great Chickasaw Cession and named in honor of Governor William Carroll.  The county seat is Huntingdon.
 
The Bobbitt family came from formed in 1821 Carroll County, Tennessee.
The Cook family came from Carroll County, Tennessee with the Bobbitt, Cardwell, and Borrows families.
Christopher and George Cook settled in Big Creek in Craighead County, Arkansas as did the Bobbitt family.  The Cooks moved to Cash and Egypt.
Source: Book: The Ties That Bind, compiled by Carmen R. Baxter.
 
Note:  The US Census for Carroll County, Tennessee begins in 1830.
 
Proven fact:
1830 US Census for Carroll County, Tennessee
Bobbett, Dsa 189 
males
under age 5 - 1
ages 5 to 10 - 1
ages 10 to 15 - 1
ages 15 to 20
ages 20 to 30
ages 20 to 40
 
females 
under age 5 - 1
ages 5 to 10 - 1
ages 10 to 15 - 1
ages 15 to 20 - 1
ages 20 to 30
ages 30 to 40 - 1 
 
Proven facts:
1830 Census, Maury County, Tennessee
Simpson Bobbett
males
under age 5 - 0
ages 5 to 10 - 1
ages 10 to 15 - 1
ages 15 to 20 - 1
ages 20 to 30
ages 30 to 40
ages 40 to 50 - 1
 
female
under age 5 - 2
ages 5 to 10 - 1
ages 10 to 15 - 1
ages 15 to 20 - 1
ages 20 to 30
ages 30 to 40
ages 40 to 50 - 1
 
Our 2nd Goal:  Our goal for Marsha and hopefully Eileen will research how the supposed young widow Dsa Bobbitt is related to Simpson Bobbitt.  Marsha believes Dsa Bobbitt is the sister-in-law of Simpson Bobbitt.  They live 2 counties apart.
 
1850 US Census, Powell Township, Craighead County,
Arkansas
Simpson Bobbitt's son Moses L. Bobbitt
 
1860 US Census, Big Creek Township, Craighead County,
Arkansas
Simpson Bobbitt's son Moses L. Bobbitt
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
April 13, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
This is a 2nd time line for Chird Bobbitt's Bobbitt line.
 
John Bobbitt born about 1768 and died after 1821 in
Warren County, Kentucky and wife Mary had 3 children:
1.  Simpson Bobbitt - Chird's direct line
Source:  1830 US Census, Maury County, Tennessee
head of house Simpson Bobbitt
2.  Mr. Bobbitt, a surveyor in Carroll County, Tennessee
history and his wife Lodicia or Dsa or Disa and their
children:  Samuel P. Bobbitt, Lively [male] Bobbitt, Lodicia T. Bobbitt, Emmaline Bobbitt and Edward Bobbitt.
Source:  1830 US Census, Carroll County, Tennessee
head of house Dsa Bobbitt
3. J. Bobbitt who can be either James or John, etc. Bobbitt born about 1792 in possibly Franklin County, North Carolina but Not Related to the Warren County, North Carolina Bobbitts, and who migrated to Maury County, Tennessee and then to Carroll County, Tennessee:
Two sons of J. Bobbitt on extracted marriage records from Carroll County, Tennessee:
Son # 1 James Bobbitt who married wife # 1 Eliza A. Province on 19 February 1845 Carroll County, Tennessee
and wife # 2 Sarah Boyd on 31 May 1856 Carroll County, Tennessee
Son # 2 John W. Bobbitt who married Mary J. Province on 10 December 1845 Carroll County, Tennessee
Source:  Extracted Marriages
Marriages:  Carroll County, Tennessee, 1838-1862.
Carroll County, Tennessee County Clerk,
Nashville, Tennessee State Library and Archives
 
Another marriage source for James Bobbitt and John W. Bobbitt is in the Carroll County, Tennessee Historical Society published volume of marriages from 1838 to 1859.
William H. Province MG or Minister of the Gospel married Eliza A. Province to James Bobbitt and married Mary Province to John Bobbitt.
William H. Province is some kind of relative to Eliza A. Province and Mary Province.
William H. Province was born in Kentucky in 1806 and
migrated to Carroll County, Kentucky.
 
1807 - Maury County, Tennessee was created from Williamson County, Tennessee
 
7 Nov 1821 - Carroll County, Tennessee was created out of the Western District which before was Indian Lands
 
Eileen, I/we need your help.
 
I am at the point of research that I need more information that can be found in a genealogy library as I have looked all over the internet for the identity of Claybourne Bobbitt either as the son of John Bobbitt born about 1768 or his brother may be found and known. 
Source:  1790 US Census, Franklin County, North Carolina
John Bobbitt head of household 
 
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
April 14, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Chird, take a closer look at the Tuesday, 13 April 2010 email I sent you and stated:
Simpson Bobbitt - Chird's direct line
 
Your ancestor is Simpson Bobbitt in Maury County, Tennessee, rather than Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor in Carroll County, Tennessee.
 
I believe Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor is your 2nd great grand uncle.
 
Source of a Bobbitt is a surveyor from
Pond Branch, Antioch, Blount Creek, Carroll County, Tennessee
"A surveyor named Bobbitt received a grant from the government and constructed a pond between the Pond Branch and Sandy River known as Bobbitt's Pond south of the Pond Branch bridge.
 
It is needed to find the first name of a Bobbitt the surveyor.
I am going to search again into finding more on this Bobbitt on the computer.  I need help looking in genealogy libraries and need Eileen Sears to help as I am currently mostly home bound.

Why is Simpson Bobbitt your direct line?
 
In the 1850 US Census, Powell Township, Craighead County, Arkansas
Moses L. or "Len" Bobbitt was 27 years old and born about 1823 in Tennessee 
 
Moses L. or "Len"  Bobbitt would be 7 years old in 1830, so Simpson Bobbitt is his father as
Simpson Bobbitt migrated to and died in Craighead County, Arkansas. 
In the 1860 US Census Big Creek Township, Craighead County, Arkansas, Simpson Bobbitt head of household has Lucida Bobbitt 80 years old born about 1780 in Alabama.
Very important:
This Lucida Bobbitt is a completely different person from Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt by name, year and place of birth.
 
In the 1830 US Census Maury County, Tennessee Simpson Bobbitt has 1 male ages 5 to 10 years of age,
Moses L. "Len"  Bobbitt born about 1823.
 
In the 1830 US Census Carroll County, Tennesse Dsa Bobbitt, wife of Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor, has 2 males ages 5 to 10 years of age, Samel P. Bobbitt born 1820 and Edward Bobbitt born 1822
 
Dsa or Disa Bobbitt's children: Lively Bobbitt was born about 1814, Lodicia T. Bobbitt was born about 1816; Emmaline Bobbitt born about 1818 married Devaney Weathers Burrow,whose parents James Burrow and Elizabeth Weathers died in Carroll County, Tennesse; Samuel P. Bobbitt born about 1820 or age 10 and Edward born about 1822 or age 8. 
 
Dsa's children migrated to Greene County, Arkansas
and died there according to the Devaney Burrow family records.
Two more sources:
 
1840 US Census, Cache Township, Greene County, Arkansas
Devaney Burrow [husband of Emmaline Bobbitt]
 
1840 US Census, Cache Township, Greene County, Arkansas
Edward Bobit [brother of Emmaline Bobbitt]
males ages 20 to 30 - 1
females ages under 5 - 2
females ages 20 to 30 - 1
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
April 14, 2010

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Marsha Berry wrote:
 
Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Chird, take a closer look at the Monday, 12 April 2010 email I sent you and stated:
Simpson Bobbitt - Chird's direct line
 
Your ancestor is Simpson Bobbitt in Maury County, Tennessee, rather than Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor in Carroll County, Tennessee.
 
I believe Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor is your 2nd great grand uncle.
 
Source of a Bobbitt is a surveyor from
Pond Branch, Antioch, Blount Creek, Carroll County, Tennessee
"A surveyor named Bobbitt received a grant from the government and constructed a pond between the Pond Branch and Sandy River known as Bobbitt's Pond south of the Pond Branch bridge.
 
It is needed to find the first name of a Bobbitt the surveyor.
I am going to search again into finding more on this Bobbitt on the computer.  I need help looking in genealogy libraries and need Eileen Sears to help as I am currently mostly home bound.

Why is Simpson Bobbitt your direct line?
 
In the 1850 US Census, Powell Township, Craighead County, Arkansas
Moses L. or "Len" Bobbitt was 27 years old and born about 1823 in Tennessee 
 
Moses L. or "Len"  Bobbitt would be 7 years old in 1830, so Simpson Bobbitt is his father as
Simpson Bobbitt migrated to and died in Craighead County, Arkansas. 
In the 1860 US Census Big Creek Township, Craighead County, Arkansas, Simpson Bobbitt head of household has Lucida Bobbitt 80 years old born about 1780 in Alabama.
Very important:
This Lucida Bobbitt is a completely different person from Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt by name, year and place of birth.
 
In the 1830 US Census Maury County, Tennessee Simpson Bobbitt has 1 male ages 5 to 10 years of age,
Moses L. "Len"  Bobbitt born about 1823.
 
In the 1830 US Census Carroll County, Tennesse Dsa Bobbitt, wife of Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor, has 2 males ages 5 to 10 years of age, Samel P. Bobbitt born 1820 and Edward Bobbitt born 1822
 
Dsa or Disa Bobbitt's children: Lively Bobbitt was born about 1814, Lodicia T. Bobbitt was born about 1816; Emmaline Bobbitt born about 1818 married Devaney Weathers Burrow,whose parents James Burrow and Elizabeth Weathers died in Carroll County, Tennesse; Samuel P. Bobbitt born about 1820 or age 10 and Edward born about 1822 or age 8. 
 
Dsa's children migrated to Greene County, Arkansas
and died there according to the Devaney Burrow family records.
Two more sources:
 
1840 US Census, Cache Township, Greene County, Arkansas
Devaney Burrow [husband of Emmaline Bobbitt]
 
1840 US Census, Cache Township, Greene County, Arkansas
Edward Bobit [brother of Emmaline Bobbitt]
males ages 20 to 30 - 1
females ages under 5 - 2
females ages 20 to 30 - 1
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
April 14, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
May I make it crystal clear that I have not ever stated Simpson Bobbitt was in "The Ties That Bind."  Simpson Bobbitt is with his family in the 1840 US Census, Maury County, Tennessee. 
 
The widow Disa Bobbitt and her children including Moses L. or Len Bobbitt that are in "The Ties That Bind" is with with her family in the 1840 US Census, Carroll County, Tennessee.
 
I am stating again that in "The Ties That Bind" is Disa Bobbitt who is most likely the widow of Mr. Bobbitt,  the surveyor in Pond Branch, Anticoch, Blount Creek, Carroll County, Tennessee, because of the Carroll County, Tennessee location.
 
"Pond Branch, Antioch, and Blount Creek were heavily populated in the 1830's.  A surveyor named Bobbitt received a grant from the government and constructed a pond between the Pond Branch and the Sandy River known as Bobbitt's Pond south of the Pond Branch bridge."
 
Please give me a little time Chird, as I will look for the government grant, more about the construction of the pond and history of Bobbitt's Pond, hopefully for a first name of Mr. Bobbitt.  If it is not on the internet, I will need help from Eileen Sears to look in the genealogy libraries as I am currently home bound, or maybe I can talk my husband George into going to the BYU Library for me.
 
Chird, have you heard from Eileen Sears as of yet as I have not heard from her?  She may be out of town.
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
April 20, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
As I have not persued this Lydia Bobbit in the 1840 Poinsett County, Arkansas Census, I do not know who this Lydia Bobbitt is.
 
Do  you already know who she is with her children?
 
Regards,
Marsha

 
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Chird wrote:
 
http://www.bobbittville.com/1840CensusPoinsettCo-AR.jpg



Email by Marsha Berry
April 14, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith.
 
May I make it crystal clear that I did not ever state there was a
Simpson Bobbitt in the
 
1860 US Census, Big Creek Township, Craighead County, Arkansas Census with Moses L. Bobbitt head of the household
age 29 born Tennessee Farmer, cannot write or read with Rachel Bobbitt age 21 born Tennesee, William H. Bobbitt age 16 born Arkansas, Moses B. Bobbitt age 12 born Arkansas, Mary J. Bobbitt age 10 born Arkansas, James R. Bobbitt age 8 born Arkansas,
Buch L. Bobbitt age 7 born Arkansas, Lodicia Bobbitt age 6 Arkansas, Caroline Bobbitt age 3 born Arkansas, Lewis C. Bobbitt age 1 Arkansas, Lucidia Bobbitt age 80 born Alabama or in about 1780.
 
Remember, orginally in your 3 April 2010 Bobbitt Tree Connections
email to me, you
had Moses L. or Len Bobbitt as the son of Simpson Bobbitt.
 
I have just been exploring the possibilties and have not put anything in stone as of yet in my emails to you. 
 
My PAF 5.2 Chird Bobbitt Genealogy File has
your Moses L. or Len Bobbitt is the son of Mr. Bobbitt and his wife Dsa Bobbitt in Carroll County, Tennessee.

Regards, 
Marsha
 
 
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Chird wrote:
 
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~arcraigh/census1860/bigcreek.html


Emails from...
April 15, 2010

Note to Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Sorry but I made a type-o on the 2 Census years that should read 1830
not 1840.
 
Regards,
Marsha
 
--- On Wed, 4/14/10, Marsha Berry wrote:
 
From: Marsha Berry
Subject: Re: The Ties That Bind
To: "Chird", "Eileen Sears", "Keith Bobbitt"
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 8:16 PM
 
Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Make I make it crystal clear that I have not ever stated Simpson Bobbitt was in "The Ties That Bind."  Simpson Bobbitt is with his family in the 1840 US Census, Maury County, Tennessee.
 
The widow Disa Bobbitt and her children including Moses L. or Len Bobbitt that are in "The Ties That Bind" is with with her family in the 1840 US Census, Carroll County, Tennessee.
 
I am stating again that in "The Ties That Bind" is Disa Bobbitt who is most likely the widow of Mr. Bobbitt,  the surveyor in Pond Branch, Anticoch, Blount Creek, Carroll County, Tennessee, because of the Carroll County, Tennessee location.
 
"Pond Branch, Antioch, and Blount Creek were heavily populated in the 1830's.  A surveyor named Bobbitt received a grant from the government and constructed a pond between the Pond Branch and the Sandy River known as Bobbitt's Pond south of the Pond Branch bridge."
 
Please give me a little time Chird, as I will look for the government grant, more about the construction of the pond and history of Bobbitt's Pond, hopefully for a first name of Mr. Bobbitt.  If it is not on the internet, I will need help from Eileen Sears to look in the genealogy libraries as I am currently home bound, or maybe I can talk my husband George into going to the BYU Library for me.
 
Chird, have you heard from Eileen Sears as of yet as I have not heard from her?  She may be out of town.
 
Regards,
Marsha
 
 
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:31 AM, Chird wrote:
 
No mention of Simpson here and Moses listed as Disa's son???
 
Accompanying the Cooks to Arkansas were the Bobbitt clan led by a widow, Lodicia "Disa" Bobbitt of Alabama. Her children were as follows: Moses L. "Len" married Rachel, Samuel P. married Nancy Cardwell, Lively married a Moore, Lodicia married William F. Sims, Emmaline married Devaney Burrow, Martha Ann married William Cook, and Edward.http://www.geewiz.net/history/tiesthatbind.html


Email from Marsha Berry
April 16, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,div> Thank you for your email Keith.  We can use both email addresses for Eileen Sears.  I have been using the yahoo one.  And, yes, my PAF 5.2 Chird Bobbitt Genealogy File is now in stone as far as the Surveyor Mr. Bobbitt and Dsa Bobbitt being the parents of Moses L. or Len Bobbitt.
 
SorSorry to put off your 2 census questions from your emails for just a little while Chird, but I have some new findings 15 April that I am excited about that take top priority.
 
Sorry The History of Carroll County, Tennessee, Volume 1, by Turner, book is out of print according to amazon and other book places online, but that should not stop us.ont>
&nb 
I checked eBay and a book: Historical and Biographical Sketches of Carroll County, Tennessee is available for $5.00 Buy It Now plus $1.60 for shipping.  I wrote an email and asked the seller if there is a Mr. Bobbitt in the book.  I await the answer.
 
If eBay does not work, the book may be available on inter-library loan from our local library.   It is not in the BYU Library or the SLC FHL according to the online catalogues, but that can be rechecked.ont> 
 
I went on the internet and found the complete quote about the surveyor Mr. Bobbitt and the next page quote about John Bobbitt in the book:
The History of Carroll County, Tennessee, Volume 1, by Turner
 
Page 52
&nb 
The areas around Antioch, Pond Branch, and Blount Creek were heavily populated very early, in the 1830's, because the land was free to occupants [in contrast to land in and around Buena Vista, which had been granted about 30 years earlier to military officers and had to be purchased.]  John Wesley [Coocher] Brown owned property on Pond Branch in 1830.  A Surveyor named Bobbitt received a grant from the U.S. government and constructed a large pond between Pond Branch and the Sandy River called the Bobbitt Pond, near the farm of Coocher Brown.  Bobbitt's property was south of the present Pond Branch bridge.  Bount's Creek was named after Isaac Blount who had the first grist mill in Carroll County.
 
Page 53
Pete Smith's Store on left sideont>
on the right hand side is:
About a quarter of a mile down the railroad is the old Foust home which was built by Quay and Maggy Foust.
Tom Bateman built a log house near the old school.  Later he and his family moved into a frame house across from the present store [1972]. 
John Bobbitt lived, I believe, where Mrs. Clyde Churchwell now lives [1972].  This house was later occupied by Steve and Alice Pettigree.
 
Question:  I wonder if the 1972 Mrs. Clyde Churchwell is still in John Bobbitt's house?
I want to check on this more: phone book, etc. I wonder if John Bobbitt's house still exists today and who lives today in John Bobbitt's house knows his genealogy.
 
Note:  John Bobbitt house - there is a strong possibility this is our surveyor Mr. Bobbitt.  I will look into this more as I want to know where John Bobbitt comes from and who his parents are.
 
I found Steve and Alice Allen Pettigrew on the internet.
Alice Allen and Steve Pettigrew owned the John Bobbitt house.
 
Marsha's question:  Is the John Bobbitt house the same house as the following?  It may be.
 
I found a photo of Alice Allen Pettigrew with her siblings.
Alice married Steve Pettigrew and they owned the Alex Allen place when it was sold in the resettlement project to create what eventually became Natchez State Park, Carroll County,  Tennessee.
 
There is a Bobbitt Road in Carroll County, Tennessee.
Source:
2004 missing person Jane Lindsey from Huntingdon, Tennessee
Her car was found in the intersection of Grooms Road and Bobbitt Road in Carroll County, Tennessee.
 
Note:  maps are of great importance.  Today Carroll County is right on the county border.
 
Marsha found and downloaded and made a PAF 5.2 gedcom from a PAF 2.3 belonging to Lori Brown, who married a Mr. Sheel. Lori being born 17 Feb 1959, Reedy, Fresno, California,
a descendant Samuel Leonard Brown, 3rd child of
John Wesley Brown born about 1814 Alabama
married Martha A. Killough 5 Nov 1845 Carroll County, Tennessee
died and buried Cedar Grove, Carroll County, Tennnessee
 
Note:  Dsa Bobbitt, widow of Mr. Bobbitt, was born in Alabama just like John Wesley or Cooch Brown.
 
Question:  Did John Wesley or Cooch Brown come from Alabama to Carroll County, Tennessee with Dsa Bobbitt?
 
Note:  I want to check if Lori Brown Scheel is still around the internet as her gedcom dates back to 17 August 1995.  Maybe she would know of a John Wesley Brown and a Dsa Bobbitt connection and what is Dsa's maiden name.
 
One never knows. To be continued...
 
Regards,
MarMarsha


Email by Marsha Berry
April 17, 2010

Hello Chird,
Thank you for sending me the Oberlin, Kansas Bobbitts online hyperlink.  They are related through my 2nd great grandfather William W. Bobbitt's brother John William Bobbitt and wife Julia M. Hoyt's line.
 
I know you sent the hyperlink because of the family photos which I appreciate.
 
Please keep in mind my Bobbitt cousins
Karen Shank and Dan Tholen, etc., and I did not know about "The Bobbitt Family in America," book as my Bobbitt family had their own records.  Back years ago all of my Bobbitt family had in our family records we came from Suffolk County, England and at one time had family back in Suffolk County, England who communicated with my older relatives.
It was back a few years before 2007 Karen Shank, Dan Tholen and I heard about the "The Bobbitt Family in America" book and read what it said on Keith Bobbitt's web site.  John W. Bobbitt did not ask our families for our Bobbitt genealogy.
 
Even John W. Bobbitt who wrote "The Bobbitt Family in America," book was not sure about William Bobbitt being from Wales and marrying a Joanna Sturdivant.
Of course you know there are no such people as William Bobbitt from Wales and Joanna Sturdivant.  This comes from people producing false genealogies long before John W. Bobbitt, as they could make people believe it for a price. Yes, I know where all this old Bobbitt genealogy comes from when the Parish registers and Bishop's Transcripts and Wills end around the late 1400's.
 
John W. Bobbitt was open to future research.  His book is good to use as a guide and you have to dig your family out from other families like I have to had to do with yours Chird.
 
When I compiled my 316 page
"The Bobbitt Family of Putnam County, Illinois with Bobbet ancestors from Suffolk County, England" book, I decided to keep mainly to my direct line as far as the documents and photos are concerned and keep my book near 300 pages and not the original 500 plus pages I had.
 
I have many photos of those who are my Bobbitt cousins, including tombstone photos, Wills, land papers, etc.,  which I decided not to include in my book.      
 
I am so glad for my Funk Bible which has William W. and Jane Kays Bobbitt in it. And, for my aunt Helen Morine for having her mother Ida Belle Bobbitt Funk's medallions her mother's family has had for many generations from their Suffolk County, England, plus all the other Suffolk County, England Bobbitt momentos.
 
I am so glad my Bobbitt family had William W. Bobbitt and his father Isham Drury Bobbitt's Bible pages.  And, that my Bobbitt cousin Frank Bobbitt did his Y-DNA in 2000 and my cousin Harold S. Morine, Jr., made an xerox copy of Frank's
Y-DNA results.  Frank had his William Bobbet chr 12 Aug 1647 Saint Mary, Woodbridge, Suffolk County, England record and the Ship Martha Felixstowe, Suffolk, England 3 passengers with their
Shipmaster Abraham Wheelock's ship supplies plus the 3 passenger's supplies
lists, and his Oct 1673 land grant next to Francis Whittington who both lived in the City Point city limits of today's Hopewell, of whose daughter Elizabeth he married Feb 1674 in City Point, Charles City, Virginia and his Suffolk County, England pedigree.  Of note my Crabb cousin did a grid of William Bobbet and Francis Whittington's land location taken from the Hopewell town records like he did for our Crabb family and the one that I put in my Bobbitt book was the one which is easier for people to understand.
 
As you shared the hyperlink with me, I would like to share 3 photos with you from this line:
1.  Illa Alverda Bobbitt, daughter of Francis Marion Bobbitt and Julia Cumstock Bobbitt.
2.  Julia Lucy Cumstock, wife of Francis Marion Bobbitt
3.  Rell Frederick Landau, husband of Illa Bobbitt
 
As of note I have the Will of John of Chowan County, North Carolina Bobbet and there is no sign or mark between his given name and surname.
 
Thank you again for your thoughtfulness Chird.
 
Regards,
Marsha

Note from Keith Bobbitt... here is the hyperlink referred to by Marsha Berry that was sent to her from Chird Bobbitt...


Email by Marsha Berry
April 23, 2010

Hello Chird,
 
I have not forgotten your Bobbitt research, but my Lowry relatives are challenging a couple death dates and which of 2 people they belong.  I hope to get done with my Lowry genealogy soon, hopefully after this weekend.
 
I know BYU summer graduation is this week.  I don't know if Eileen Sears has taken classes or has been to visit family for awhile or both.
 
Eileen, Chird Bobbitt [and I] need you to research in the BYU Library and maybe the SLC FHL.  Have you been receiving the emails Chird and Keith Bobbitt and I have been exchanging?
 
If you come to our house, I can catch you up.  Eileen, please give me a call so we can arrange when to get together.  Thank you.
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry and Eileen Sears
April 26, 2010

Hello Eileen, Chird and Keith,
 
Congratulations to Eileen Sears and to Eileen's daughter who was married last week.  Sometime the end of this coming week of Monday, 26 April 2010,  Eileen and I will get together about your Bobbitt genealogy research Chird.  Thank you Eileen.
 
Chird. what I do is have a Research or To Do List for Eileen, so here is the first one:
 
Chird, Marsha will give Eileen your Bobbitt pedigree chart and a family group sheet for Mr. Bobbitt and his wife Dsa or Lodicia and children, especially Moses L. or Len Bobbitt from my Chird Bobbitt Genealogy PAF 5.2 file, plus 3 research notes I have used when sending previous emails.
 
Please Note:  I want Eileen to concentrate on researching Mr. Bobbitt the Surveyor in Carroll County, Tennessee, who may be John Bobbitt.
 
1.  Marsha requests anytime either Chird, Eileen, Keith or Marsha write an email, it is sent to all.  We have been doing this so far and keeps from repeating the same email to each person.
 
2.  It is very important to keep this in mind at all times.
Chird Bobbitt's Y-DNA results are different than Marsha's Bobbitt cousin Frank Bobbitt and Keith Bobbitt's Y-DNA results, so Chird is not related in any way to Marsha and Keith.
 
Online, you are going to see a lot of Chird's Bobbitt line the same as Marsha's and Keith's Bobbitt line which is not correct.
 
There is an online paper trail error saying Chird's Bobbitt line goes to Warren County, North Carolina and hook together with and in the same Bobbitt line to Marsha's Isham Drury Bobbitt line, but that is not true as Proven by Marsha's paper trail and her cousin Frank Bobbitt's Y-DNA results.
 
Why?  John W. Bobbitt's book The Bobbitt Family in America, has Chird's line mixed especially with Marsha's Isham Drury Bobbitt line and Keith's line.
Note:  Marsha has unmixed Chird's Bobbitt line with Marsha's and Keith's line.
 
3.  On the internet you are going to see a lot of Chird's line in Carroll County, Tennessee with
widow Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt and her children, one being Chird's Proven direct line Moses L. or Len Bobbitt, with Disa as the wife of Sampson Bobbitt,
But this is not correct.  Why?
In the 1830 US Census, Dsa Bobbitt and her children are in Carroll County, Tennessee and Sampson Bobbitt and his wife and children are in Maury County, Tennessee.
 
Marsha found on the online google book:
The History of Carroll County, Tennessee, Volume 1, by Turner, pages 52 and 53,
on page 53 there is a John Bobbitt who built a house in Carroll County, Tennessee,
so Marsha believes this John Bobbitt is the page 52 Mr. Bobbitt who was a surveyor Bobbitt in Carroll County, Tennessee and lived near John Wesley or Coocher Brown on page 52.
John Bobbitt house was owned in 1972 by Clyde Churchwell, Clyde who today would be 115 and is long deceased. 
Question:  Is John Bobbitt's house in Carroll County, Tennessee still around near 1972 Pete Smith's Store or somewhere not far from Bobbitt's Pond and Pond Branch?
 
Note:  Lodicia or Dsa Bobbitt was born in Alabama and so was John Wesley or Coocher Brown who is buried in Cedar Grove, Carroll County, Tennessee. 
Question:  Is there any connection between Dsa Bobbitt and John Wesley or Coocher Brown going from Alabama to Carroll County, Tennessee?
John Wesley or Coocher Brown owned property in Pond Branch in 1830.
Marsha has John Wesley Brown Tennesse on her PAF 5.2 by Lori Brown Scheel
Phone:  916-682-4268 San Francisco, ages 50-54.  Eileen, we need to call Lori Scheel.
 
4.  Note:  Mr. Bobbitt the Surveyor in Carroll County, Tennessee, who Marsha believes is John Bobbitt,
a.  Had a grant from the US Government.  Need to find grant.
b. Constructed a pond between Pond Branch and the Sandy River called Bobbitt Pond near the farm of Coocher Brown.
Bobbitt's property was south of the present Pond Branch bridge.
Need to find more. 
 
Chird and Keith, I will let you know more what happened when Eileen and I meet.  Eileen will keep us all posted as to her findings.
 
Chird, Eileen and I will not give up on finding your Bobbitt line and where it goes.
Please note:  I want Eileen to concentrate on
researching the Surveyor Mr. Bobbitt in Carroll County, Tennessee who I believe could be John Bobbitt.
 
Chird and Keith, as we research, if anything flashes into your mind about Chird's Bobbitt line, please share it with all of us.  Thank you.
 
Regards,
Marsha
 
 
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Eileen Sears wrote:
 
Hi Marsha,
Yes - I have been receiving your Bobbitt emails.  My daughter, Megan was married last week. After all my company is gone, I will give you a call to get together. It will probably be the latter part of next week.
I would be glad to help with your research . . .
Eileen


Email by Marsha Berry
April 29, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Please remember it is finding the little bits and pieces here and there mixed into Marsha's and Keith's lines that we will find Chird Bobbitt's line.
 
We are finding John Bobbitt who has the house near Bobbitt Pond in the Carroll County, Tennessee History, Volume 1 by Turner,
page 53
and page 52 a Bobbitt is a surveyor who before 1830 with a government grant built Bobbitt Pond,
his family,
by Marsha Berry for Eileen Sears for Chird Bobbitt's family research,
Thursday, 29 April 2010.
 
Bobbitt Family GenForum
Re;  Family of John A. Bobbitt
by Stephen Bobbitt [Stephen Bobbitt is on Keith Bobbitt's line - Y-DNA]
Note: Marsha's cousin Frank Bobbitt matches 12 alleles to Keith Bobbitt's and Stephen Bobbitt's 12 alleles Y-DNA.
posted on 23 March 2010
 
The other James Bobbitt [1786-1870], father of Albert Bobbitt was from South Carolina. 
He lived most of his life in Carroll County, Tennessee.
[Marsha is not sure Albert is correct. but note James and South Carolina.]
 
Eileen, we need to reseaerh James Bobbitt born 1786 from South Carolina and spent most of his life in Carroll County, Tennessee and died in 1870.
As the 1850, 1860 and 1870 US Census gives names, we need to check if the above is true or not.  We need to check other sources.
 
From the Hazelwood Family of Warren County, North Carolina
[Is Keith's and Marsha's line - Y-DNA goes to Warren County, North Carolina]
 
pages 79, 88, 397, 474, Bobbitt book The Bobbitt Family in America by John W. Bobbitt,
Disa Bobbitt in 1830 Carroll County, Tennessee Census
Is her maiden name Duke?
Lewis Bobbitt born in 1794, married Disa Duke.  Lewis was a son of Lewis Bobbitt and Elizabeth Moore Bobbitt.
[Is Keith Bobbitt's line - Y-DNA - the above statement is not true as missed a generation. Correct genealogy is a son of Lewis Bobbitt born 1742 Amelia County, Virginia and died May 1818 Warren County, North Carolina and married Mary Person.  The son Lewis Bobbitt was born 1794 and died in 1828]
 
Lewis died in 1827 and his family is in Carroll County, Tennessee in 1830.
[This is not correct.  Dsa Bobbitt a widow is with her children in Carroll County, Tennesse in 1830.  Is not Lewis Bobbitt's family.]
 
Please remember the Y-DNA results as we are using those Y-DNA results to do this genealogy and have the correct paper trail.
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
April 30, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Here is the followup on the Census concerning James Bobbitt born 1787 South Carolina and died in Tennessee.
 
Chird, this find does not signify this is your line, but it is a possibility because it is not Keith's or my line.
 
James Bobbitt 
born about 1784 South Carolina
died before 1870 Tennessee
 
According to ancestry.com
VRR's Extended Family tree
by Figaro 1st in Dayton, Ohio
James Bobbitt
born 1787 South Carolina
died 1860 Carroll County, Tennessee
Married Miss Goodrich in 1814 in Tennessee
Had 11 children;
born in York County, Tennessee
1. Zebulon L. Bobbitt born 16 Dec 1816  m. 1837 Elizabeth Tate and died 28 Aug 1875 Madison County, Tennessee
2. Matthew Goodrich Bobbitt  m. 15 Dec 1846 Martha Williams
3. Stephen Bobbitt   m. 16 Jan 1845 Lucy Holt
4. Samuel M. Bobbitt
5. Isaac L. Bobbitt  m. 17 Dec 1846 Hasta Jane Dickens
6. Drury L. Bobbitt  m. Elizabeth Wallace
7. Malinda J. Bobbitt
8. Silas L. Bobbitt  m. 24 Aug 1852 Emma H. Maxfield
born in Madison County, Tennessee
9. Jane Bobbitt
10. Caroline Bobbitt
11. Albert Bobbitt  m. 5 Sep 1854 Malissa Dickens
 
Note:  Chird, I have seen on your website you have the Gibson County, Tennessee Bobbitt marriages.
 
Note:  Please do not assume this Bobbitt family is the same or related to other Gibson County, Tennessee Bobbitts.
 
1850 US Census, Gibson County, Tennessee
James Bobbitt age 64 born South Carolina
Malinda Bobbitt age 26 born South Carolina
Silas Bobbitt age 23 born South Carolina
Jane Bobbitt age 22 born Tennessee
Caroline Bobbitt age 18 born Tennessee
Albert Bobbitt age 17 born Tennessee
 
1840 US Census, Madison County, Tennessee
 
1820 US Census, York, York, South Carolina
James Bobbit
3 males age 10
1 male age 45
1 female age 45
 
John Bobbit
1 male age 45
females
1 female age 10
1 female age 16
1 female age 26
1 female age 45
other
James with 3 - 26, 26, whole 7
John with 1 - whole 1
 
No South Carolina
1800 US Census, Morgan, Buncombe, North Carolina
James Bobbitt
4 under age 16
2 over age 25
6 total household
 
No South Carolina
1790 US Census, Franklin County, North Carolina
living with either Turner or William Bobbitt
2 males over age 25
 
This is a good but a quick start with the US Census and we are back to Franklin County, North Carolina, and of course other states like Virginia will be considered.
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
April 30, 2010

Hello Chird, Keith, and Eileen,
 
Eileen Sears and Marsha met Friday, 30 April 2010, from 2:00-3:00 pm at Marsha's house to begin the research of the ancestors of Chird Bobbitt.
 
Marsha presented Eileen with a folder containing:
 
1.  The Y-DNA results of Chird Bobbitt and Keith and Marsha Berry's Bobbitt cousin Frank Bobbitt, showing Chird is not related to Marsha and Keith, and is from a totally different Bobbitt line as shown on Keith Bobbitt's Y-DNA web site.
 
2. Chird's pedigree chart from Chird Bobbitt, Flemon Benjamin Bobbitt, John Wesley Bobbitt, Moses L. or Len Bobbitt, Mr. John Bobbitt the surveyor died before 1830 US Census Carroll County Tennessee, John Bobbitt 1810 Census Kentucky, Wm. Bobbitt
 
3. Family Group Record sheets:
As Chird's genealogy is proven from Chird to Moses L. or Len Bobbitt, we began with Mr. John Bobbitt the Carroll County, Tennessee Surveyor who built a house near his Bobbitt Pond, according to The Carroll County, Tennessee History, Volume 1, by Turner, pages 52 and 53,
Chird's family group record sheet for Mr. John Bobbitt and Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt and her children including Moses L. or Len Bobbitt.
Also a family group record sheet with Mr. John Bobbitt as a child of John Bobbitt.
And, the family group record sheet for the non-related family of John Wesley or Coocher Brown, who was the next door neighbor of Mr. John Bobbitt near Bobbitt Pond in Carroll County, Tennessee. 
Note:
Interesting that Coocher Brown was born in Alabama as was Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt.
Note:
Marsha gave Eileen the telephone number of
Lori Brown Scheel who is a descendant of John Wesley or Coocher Brown in Carroll County, Tennessee to ask:
1. Do you know about a Bobbitt who was a surveyor and neighbor to your John Wesley or Coocher Brown in Pond Branch, Carroll County, Tennessee?
2. Do you know the exact location of John Wesley or Coocher Brown's property in Carroll County, Tennessee? 
2. Did John Wesley or Coocher Brown have a government grant like next door neighbor Mr. Bobbitt?
Note:  Eileen will research the before or early 1830 before the census Mr. Bobbitt surveyor near Pond Branch, Carroll County, Tennessee government bond to construct and build Bobbitt Pond.
3.  John Wesley or Coocher Brown was buried in Cedar Grove, Carroll County, Tennessee?  4.  Do you know who we can contact in Cedar Grove to find out if our Mr. Bobbitt is buried there or near Pond Branch?  
 
4. Eileen is researching using the To-Do List sent in an email to all on 16 April 2010.
Plus Eileen has all WordPad copies of what was writen and sent as emails since 1 April 2010. 
 
5. Marsha gave Eileen maps of the states of Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia and the USA from the US Census years 1790 to 1920, which were obtained by Marsha and George Berry several years ago at the BYU Library.
 
Question:
Chird, do you have a Will for Moses L. or Len Bobbitt?
Eileen, please check for a Will for Mr. John Bobbitt or other Bobbitt before the 1830 US Census in Carroll County Tennessee.  Thank you.
 
We all appreciate Eileen who is helping us research Chird's Bobbitt family.  Eileen and Marsha had a good meeting.
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Chird Bobbitt
April 30, 2010

Marsha
 
Since my father was an orphan, I have never met any of my Bobbitt relatives, so have no documents except copies of some marriage records.

Nothing on Moses L. Bobbitt
 
Chird


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