Email history of Chird Bobbitt's line continued... Page 2

This is an email history of the research of Chird Bobbitt's genealogy line by Marsha Berry, Eileen Sears, and Chird Bobbitt

The DNA Loci Designation DYS # and Y-Chromosome Allele results for Chird's line is...

Loci DYS 393 DYS 390 DYS 19 DYS 391 DYS 385a DYS 385b DYS 426 DYS 388 DYS 439 DYS 389-1 DYS 392 DYS 389-2
Allele 13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29
Results 13 25 14 11 11 14 ? ? 12 13 13 29
 



Email by Marsha Berry

May 4, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Chird, Eileen, and Keith, warning, please do not open the Bobbitt/Brown connection web
site link in Chird's 3 May 2010 email, as when Marsha went to the hyperlink, Marsha's Norton 360 shows this site as an unsafe site to enter as it has a computer threat, so Marsha did not enter this web site.
 
Marsha will look for another web site on the internet with the same information that Marsha's Norton 360 says is a safe site. 
 
Regards,
Marsha

 
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Chird wrote:
Seems like you are on the right track with Bobbitt/Brown connection http://users.bscn.com/~harryv/1839c.htm
 
Poinsett County, Arkansas was created in 1838 from Greene and St. Francis Counties and is located in the northeastern section of the state.
 
On February 19, 1859 Craighead County was formed out of parts of Greene, Mississippi, and Poinsett  counties
& the Poinsett Co., Line was moved 6 miles south.


 Email by Marsha Berry
May 4, 2010

Hello Chird,
 
Of course Marsha found William G. Bobbitt and wife Lydia on your web site and also on the Hazelwood Family web site, plus wife Lydia Bobbitt as head of household on the 1840 US Census, Mitchell Township, Poinsett, Arkansas on ancestry.com
 
Chird, on ancestry.com is the brother of your Moses L. or Len Bobbitt,  Edward Bobbitt and Carolyn Waldrum line and their daughter Lodicia T. Bobbitt and her husband William T. Sims line that has a Smith family line connection, the Smith line not related to you, in Jonesboro, Craighead County, Arkansas by rsvaughn in Luka, Mississippi. 
 
Very briefly the Smith family line goes:
Generation One:  Dsa Bobbitt
 
Generation Two:  Edward Bobbitt born about 1822 Carroll County, Tennessee and married Carolyn Waldrum who both died in Arkansas
 
Generation Three:  Lodicia T. Bobbitt born 1836 Kentucky married in 1852 William T. Sims born 1834 in Kentucky or Tennessee
Lodicia and William T. Sims had 10 children and these children are your 2nd cousins 1 times removed:
1. Hezekiah Sims born 1852 Brookland, Craighead, Arkansas
2. John A. Sims born Jan 1854 Brookland, Craighead, Arkansas
3. Martha E. Sims born Aug 1856 , Craighead, Arkansas
4. William T. Sims born Mar 1859 , Craighead, Arkansas
5. Aaron G. or "Dick"  Sims born 1860 . Craighead, Arkansas and married Elizabeth A. or "Doll"  Hanson
Aaron and Elizabeth Sims had 4 children and the younger 2 children descend:
1. Mattie L. Sims born 29 Dec 1905 Arkansas and died 15 Dec 1977, Craighead, Arkansas and married Earl J. Caples who had 7 children: 5 living and 2 deceased.  They are buried in the Enterprise Cemetery, Craighead County, Arkansas.
2. Melvin C. Sims born 15 Apr 1908 , Craighead, Arkansas and died 4 Nov 1984 , Craighead, Arkansas and wife living Cole.  Melvin is buried in the Enterprise Cemetery, Craighead County, Arkansas.
 
Note:  It is through your 2nd cousin 1 time removed Aaron G. or "Dick" Sims's wife Elizabeth A. Hanson's brother John Henry Hanson's and wife Julia Francis Hendrix's daughter Irene Hanson who married Billie Smith that is the Smith Tree that is on ancestry.  Irene Hanson and Billie Smith are not related to you Chird.
 
6. Henry Lawson Sims born 1862 , Craighead, Arkansas
7. Joseph C. Sims born Jan 1863 , Craighead, Arkansas
8. Edward Green Sims born Aug 1864 , Craighead, Arkansas
9. Ransom O. Sims born 1866 or 1868 , Craighead, Arkansas
10. Williamson Walker Sims born Jan 1873 , Craighead, Arkansas
A source: 1900 US Census, Big Creek Township, Craighead, Arkansas
 
Chird, have your known previously about your 2nd cousins 1 time removed,  the 10 children of William T. Sims and Lodicia T. Bobbitt who are in Craighead County, Arkansas?
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
May 5, 2010

Hello Chird,
 
Sorry Chird,  it is William Bobbitt, no initial "G,"
a comment about the Carroll County, Tennessee Bobbitts most likely came from Maury County, Tennessee.  Maybe and maybe not.  In the 1830 US Census Maury County, Tennessee is a possible relative of Lydia Bobbitt, William Bobbitt, plus a Greene Bobbitt and Simpson Bobbitt who I have seen in a genealogy the husband of Lydia Bobbitt.
Does anyone know for sure who Lydia Bobbitt's husband is?
 
Attach: .jpeg
1840 US Census Mitchell Township Poinsett Co Arkansas Lydia Bobbitt widow and mother Edward G. Bobbitt
 
In referring you to your Edward G. Bobbitt of the 1839 Poinsett County, Arkansas State Census,
is this Edward Bobit in the 1840 US Cache, Green, Arkansas Census Lydia Bobbitt's oldest son?
 
The list of 1840 US Census Bobbitts in Arkansas are:
1.  Lewis Bobbitt in Jackson, Union, Arkansas
2.  Lydia Bobbitt in Mitchell, Poinsett, Arkansas
3.  Sanford B. Bobbitt in Missouri, Clark, Arkansas
4.  Edward Bobit in Cache, Green, Arkansas
5.  Ashford P. Bufet in Mitchell, Poinsett, Arkansas
 
Question:  Is Ashford P. Bufet a Bufet or a Bobbitt in Mitchell, Poinsett, Arkansas?
 
The list of the1830 US Census Bobbitt in Tennessee:
1.  Joseph Bobbitt in Tipton, Tennnessee
2.  Stephen Bobbitt in Williamson, Tennessee
3.  James Babbitt in Rutherford, Tennessee
4.  John Bevet in Williamson, Tennessee
5.  Drury Bobbitt in Montgomery, Tennessee
6.  Drury Bobbitt in Robertson, Tennessee
7.  Dsa Bobbitt in Carroll, Tennessee
8. James Bobbitt in Madison, Tennessee
9. Simpson Bobbitt in Maury, Tennessee
10.  Greene Bobbitt in Maury, Tennessee
11.  Uriel Bobbitt in Tipton, Tennessee
12.  William Bobbitt in Maury, Tennessee
  
Regards,
Marsha

 
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Chird wrote:
Who is William G. Bobbitt?
 
I don't remember seeing anything about him in connection with Lydia?
 
Yes, I knew of the Sims connection, but had not followed up on it.
 
Chird


Email by Marsha Berry
May 6, 2010

Hello Chird,
 
At 10:35 AM, Wednesday, 5 May 2010 Chird Bobbitt wrote:
"Then I may be descended from Lydia/Lodicia Bobbitt and her husband and not Simpson Bobbitt?
 
I had always assumed this Edward G. Bobbitt was Lydia/Lodicia's son."
 
Marsha's answer:
Dsa or Lodicia or Lucidia are names for one person.  Lydia is a name for another person. They are completely different names and persons.
 
Look at the 1830 US Census in Tennessee:
 
Carroll County, Tennessee
You have Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt, the widow in Carroll County, Tennessee and her children which includes child Moses L. or Len Bobbitt, Moses being your direct line Chird.
 
Maury County, Tennessee
You have Simpson Bobbitt and his wife and children in Maury County, Tennessee.  Simpson Bobbitt's wife's name is Lydia.
 
Marsha's answer:  Edward G. Bobbitt is the son of Dsa or Lodicia or Lucidia, not Lydia.
 
In the 1860 US Census Big Creek Township, Craighead, Arkansas, you have Moses L. or Len Bobbitt head of household with mother Lucidia Bobbitt age 80 born Alabama about 1780.
 
Moses L. or Len Bobbitt's brother Edward G. Bobbitt married Carolyn Waldrum.  Edward G. Bobbitt and Carolyn Waldrum had a daughter Lodicia T. Bobbitt that married William T. Sims.
 
Note: the name Lodicia is in the descending generation named after her grandmother Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt, not the name Lydia. 
 
Marsha's answer:
Chird, you are descended from Dsa or Lodicia or Lucidia Bobbitt, not Simpson Bobbitt, as proven by the 1830 US Census. 
 
Note:  Chird, Eileen Sears and I are persuing the possible husband of the widow Dsa or Lodicia or Lucidia Bobbitt, a surveyor Mr. Bobbitt page 52 and John Bobbitt who built a house page 53 who is the same person as on page 52, as in the book: The Carroll County Tennessee History, Vol. 1, by Turner, pages 52 and 53.
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Eileen Sears
May 6, 2010

Hello Marsha, Chird, and Keith,
I wanted to give you an update of what I have found out this week thus far:
(1) I contacted the Tennessee State Archives to inquire about their index for Tennessee land grants. I received a reply yesterday, which I will forward on to you all.  Unfortunately, there is no information in the index about a John Bobbett, although a James Bobbitt and others appear. Do you wish me to pursue the James Bobbett who is found in the land grant index?
 
(2) I called the phone number that was given me for Lori Brown Scheel. She no longer has that phone number. I called directory information for San Francisco and the operator told me that there was no listing for her. There was a listing for a gentleman with the spelling of "Scheele" in the last name, however. I'm not sure what you would like me to do at this point with contacting Lori Brown Scheel.
 
(3) I will travel to Salt Lake City on Saturday to research records (i.e., probate, land, vital records and others) that the Family History Library has in their catalog for Carroll County, Tennesse.  
 
I'm sorry that this initial research has not been fruitful . . . but I am hopeful that I will find some success in my record search in Salt Lake City.


Forwarded email to Eileen Sears
May 6, 2010

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Reference TSLA <Reference.TSLA@tn.gov>
Date: Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: land grant index for Tennessee
To: Eileen Sears


Dear Eileen Sears -- 
 
 
  Your e-mail has just been forwarded to the Public Services section of the Tennessee State Library and Archives. 
 
 
  The publication TENNESSEE LAND GRANTS by Byron Sistler and Associates covers the following land grants:  North Carolina Military;  Tennessee General;  East, Middle, and West Tennessee;  Mountain District;  Hiwassee District  and Ocoee District.    I checked and regret to say I can find no listings for J. or Jon or John or Jonathan  BOBBITT  /  BOBBETT  /  BOBITT  /  etc.    The only listings I could find are for Zebulon L. BOBBETT,  Green W. BOBBITT,  James BOBBITT and Stephen I. BOBBITT. 
 
 
 
 
       Ronald A. Lee
       Tennessee State Library & Archives


>>> Eileen Sears  4/30/2010 11:55 PM >>>
Hello,
It is my understanding that you can email me the index of land grants for Tennessee. Then if I find the name of the person I am researching, John Bobbitt,(who received land in Carroll County, Tn sometime between 1800-1825) that I can pre-pay to order copies of the land grant. I would appreciate a reply in regards to this land grant index. Thank you for your help in this matter.
Regards,
Eileen Sears



Email by Marsha Berry
May 8, 2010

Hello Eileen,
 
Eileen,  am I assuming you have found a lot of Carroll County and Maury County, Tennessee resources?  I have a list for you on paper to pick up when you are in our area.
 
Marsha has something to present which goes along with our research for Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor or John Bobbitt in the book:  The Carroll County, Tennessee, Volume 1, pages 52 and 53, and our 4 proposed children and separating who belongs to Chird and who belongs to Marsha and Keith.
 
John Bobbitt and wife and with the current results of their 4 proposed children:
child number 1 being Marsha's and Keith's line;
child number 2 being Chird's direct line;
child number 3 being in question,
and child number 4 which may be a relative on Chird's line,
are as follows:
 
1. James Bobbitt South Carolina and Carroll County, Tennessee and Miss Goodrich and 2 other wives -  is Marsha's and Keith's line.
 
James Bobbitt born 1786/1787 in South Carolina and died about 1860 in Carroll County, Tennessee married a Miss Goodrich in 1814.  They had children: Zebulon L. Bobbitt, Matthew Goodrich Bobbitt, Stephen J. Bobbitt, Samuel M. Bobbitt.
 
After Miss Goodrich, James Bobbitt's wife was 2nd wife Malinda Lanski: mother of Drury J. Bobbitt, Malinda J. Bobbitt, Silas Bobbitt, Jane Bobbitt, Caroline Bobbitt, Albert Bobbitt, and James Bobbitt. 
 
James Bobbitt married Sarah Elizabeth Butler 31 May 1853.
  
2.  Mr. John Bobbitt the surveyor and wife Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt - Is Chird's direct line as son is Moses L or Len Bobbitt.
 
3.  J. Bobbitt of Carroll County Tennesssee - is in question and needs more research.  His possible sons James and John W. Bobbitt have extracted 1845 marriage records in Carroll County, Tennessee.
 
4.  Simpson Bobbitt and wife Lydia - may be a relative on Chird's line
  
  
Best regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry
May 8, 2010

Hello Eileen,
 
1. As far as the Tennessee Land Grants are concerned, Zebulon L. Bobbitt, James Bobbitt and Stephen I. [J.] Bobbitt are all Marsha's Bobbitt line, not Chird's Bobbitt line.  I sent an email about them this AM.  I don't know about Green W. Bobbitt, so I will check on him.
 
The land grant time frame for a John or James Bobbitt would be 1820-1830.
 
2. Lori Brown Scheels' husband's name is Donald R. Scheel.  I'll talk to you about this when next we meet.
 
3. I have a Carroll and Maury County, Tennessee resource list and
I mentioned that in my today's AM email.  
 
Please telephone me when you get home so you don't "spin your wheels" with this research.  This research entails a constant separating of Chird's line from Marsha's and Keith's line.  I should make a PAF 5.2 disc of my Bobbitts so you can check on names.
 
Eileen, we need to meet together again fairly soon.  Thank you.
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marasha Berry
May 10, 2010

Hello Eileen, Chird, and Keith,
 
Marsha has an update for Chird Bobbitt's genealogy and it is good news.
 
Chird's Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt, the widow and wife of Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor that are the parents of Chird's direct line of Moses L. or Len Bobbitt is very fascinating.
 
Mr. Bobbitt did not receive a land grant where you do U.S. military service and receive land.  
 
Mr. Bobbitt like other U.S. government construction surveyors that went to Tennessee to survey 13 Districts from from 1803 to 1836, was appointed in Washington D.C., so he needed to live in a state nearby and traveled to his appointed District in Tennessee.
 
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Tennessee Surveyors Districts 1806 to 1836.
 
There is a web page about the Tennessee Surveyors Districts from 1806 to 1836 where Marsha found the Tennessee Surveyors Districts map, but has no names.
 
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Tennessee state map
 
Marsha is including the Tennessee state map to locate where Carroll County is in relation to the 13 Tennessee Surveyors Districts.
 
For further research, we need to look more into the government appointed surveyors with the surname Bobbitt.  We need to check on the surname Bobbitt in the states near Washington D.C.
 
We need to find out more about Dsa or Lodicia.  Please note Lodicia is a real girl's name.  
Dsa or Lodicia was born about 1790 in Alabama.  Alabama borders Tennessee to the south.  Look at the Tennessee Surveyors Districts map.
 
We need to find families that came from Alabama to South Carolina and find Lodicia's family.  We will look for daughters Lodicia's age in the 1790 US Census as she may have been born during the census year.
1. Why did Lodicia's family leave Alabama and go to Tennessee?
2. Did Lodicia's family live somewhere else in Tennessee before they went to Carroll County?
Lodicia was married to Mr. Bobbitt about 1812 in Tennessee.  This is an about date.
 
Eileen, the above is what we will work on now. We need to get together soon so as I can brief you.
 
Marsha has separated out her Bobbitt line of Simpson Bobbitt, Green W. Bobbitt and Green Bobbitt from Chird's line.
 
Simpson Bobbitt born 1788 North Carolina and Green Bobbitt born 1791 Samson County, North Carolina are sons of John Bobbitt born 1762 Granville County, North Carolina and about 1829 Monroe County, North Carolina and married Mary Hazelwood.
 
Green W. Bobbitt born 8 Jan 1811 Warren County, North Carolina, is the son of Drury Bobbitt and Emarintha Owen.
 
In case you were wondering, yes, Emarintha Owen is a relative of John Owen and his daughter Sarah Owen who married John Bobbet, son of William Bobbet and Elizabeth Whittington.
 
Marsha has her Bobbitt genealogy with these above Bobbitt names on rootsweb.  Keith's web site has the hyperlink.
 
Regards,
Marsha





Email by Marsha Berry

May 10, 2010

Hello Chird,
 
Thank you Chird.
 
On Keith Bobbitt's John Person Bobbitt and Nancy Huse or Hughes line they were in Tennessee before they went to Indiana,
 
On Stephen Bobbitt's James Bobbitt and Mary Guun line they were in Gibson County, Tennessee,
 
On Rosser Bobbitt's Miles Bobbitt and Susan Gunn line they stayed in North Carolina,
 
John Person Bobbitt, James Bobbitt, and Miles Bobbitt have a brother Lewis Bobbitt born about 1794 in Warren County, North Carolina and died in 1828, but I have no idea of where Lewis died or who his wife is. 
 
Keith's, Stephen's and Rosser's Lewis Bobbitt is the son of Lewis Bobbitt Junior and Mary Person.
 
Keith should know more about this. 
 
Chird, are you sure it is Lewis Bobbitt in this John Bobbitt 1830 US Census Carroll County, Tennessee?  The 1830 census did not have names other than head of household.
 
Remember Chird's and Keith's Y-DNA alleles results do not match.
 
If this 1830 US Census Carroll County Tennessee John Bobbitt family is not Keith's Lewis Bobbitt, we are on the right paper trail, thanks to Chird.
 
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry

May 10, 2010

Hello Chird,
 
Chird,
Thank you for the publication that states Lodicia Bobbitt arrived from Bedford County, Tennessee and for the marked counties of Bedford and Carroll 1830 map of Tennessee.
 
Lodicia's husband Mr. Bobbitt could have been assigned to survey more than one of the 13 Tennessee Surveyors Districts 1806 to 1836 located in today's counties. There are 2 counties plus all the ones in between now to research.
 
Did you all of you save and print the Tennessee Surveyor Districts 1806 to 1836 map I emailed? 
 
http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/survdist.html
 
I hope this hyperlink opens ok to the right place as I am not very good at this.
 
This is a history of the 13 Tennessee Surveyor Districts 1806 to 1836.  This is very valuable to Chird's genealogy.
 
Regards,
Marsha


 

Email by Eileen Sears

May 12, 2010

Hello Chird, Marsha, and Keith,
I am sending you all my research report as well as my research calendar about the research conducted. In my report findings I have included a final thought about the thirteen page information regarding "Tennessee's Early Surveyors' Districts and District Boundary Documentation."  [According to this report, the main surveyor office for Western Tennessee was located in Jackson, Madison County, Tennessee (which is just south of Carroll county). Is it possible that there might be some records in Madison County for John Bobbitt, the surveyor? And that he may have lived in Madison county prior to a move to Carroll county] Let me know what you think about this theory?
 
Regards,
Eileen

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Email from Marsha Berry

May 12, 2010

Hello Eileen, Chird, and Keith,
 
Eileen, great observation of the 13 Surveyor Districts 1806 to 1836 Tennessee as the hyperlink Marsha sent was 13 pages long of the history, no pictures and only 1 map 1st page.
 
Eileen, you need to persue more about Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt's husband who was the surveyor, who may be John or another first name Bobbitt in Madison County, Tennessee.  I have come across son Samuel Bobbitt being born in Bedford County, Tennessee,
so his father's surveying would take the family to several counties in Tennessee.
 
In the 1880 US Census Craighead County, Arkansas, daughter Emaline Bobbitt Burrow stated she was born about 1820 in Alabama and her parents Mr. Bobbitt and her mother Dsa or Lodicia were born in Tennessee.
 
Marsha came across the desendancy of Dsa or Lodicia Bobbitt's son Samuel Bobbitt who married Nancy Cardwell on ancestry, The Jesie West Family Tree by Jesie West.  Jesie does not know who Samuel Bobbitt's parents are.  Jesie is distantly related by marriage.
 
Samuel P. Bobbitt born about 1827 Bedford County, Tennessee and died 1865 Big Creek, Craighead, Arkansas
and married about 1843 Nancy Cardwell born 14 Nov 1825 Tennessee and died 20 Feb 1888 Greene County, Arkansas
 
8 children:
1.  Mary Polly Bobbitt born 1844
2.  Edward G. Bobbitt born 1 Oct 1845
3.  John J. Bobbitt born Nov 1850 , Craighead, Arkansas and died after the 1900 US Census in Salem, Greene, Arkansas.  Married Julie W. and had 7 children of which I have names and dates for 5 out of 7, and more descendancy through son Alonzo Edward Bobbitt.
4.  George W. Bobbitt born 1852
5.  Emiline Bobbitt born 1854 and died 10 Sep 1907
6.  Martha Ann Bobbitt born Jul 1859 and died Mar 1944 Greene County, Arkansas and is buried in the Pleasant Hill Cemetery with no stone.  Never married.
7. Eliza Jane Bobbitt born Feb 1860 Craighead County, Arkansas and died 1900 Greene County, Arkansas
8. Jincy Caroline Bobbit born Aug 1862 Arkansas and died after 1920 Greene County, Arkansas and is buried in the Pleasant Hill Cemetery with no stone. Never married.
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I can send more later
 
Jesica West has these photos and she got them from Caroline Dascus Andrews.
 
Attach:  .jpeg
 
Martha Ann and Jincy Caroline Bobbitt in AK CHIRDs
 
Jesica West, Samuel P. and Nancy Cardwell Bobbitt info
 
Regards,
Marsha

Photo One and Two



Email from Marsha Berry

May 13, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Thank you Chird for the Bobbitt - Larado AR Pleasant Hill Cem hyperlink which Marsha has saved to her computer and will peruse after Marsha sends this email.
 
For help in our research for Lodicia Bobbitt and her husband Mr. Bobbitt, the surveyor, Lodicia is a very southern name and has many variations of the proper name.
 
Even though this is the Upper River Valley North Carolina, this applies to All southern states.
 
2 .jpeg attachments: 

Female Names Upper River Valley North Carolina 1700s to 1850, Pages 1 and 2
 
Regards,
Marsha

Attachment One...   Attachment Two...



 

Email by Marsha Berry

May 14, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Marsha's line Simpson Bobbitt has no relationship to the Simpson family in South Carolina and Mississsippi.
 
Simpson Bobbitt was in North Carolina and Tennessee, not South Carolina.
1830 US Census, Maury County, Tennessee
 
Simpson Bobbitt was born 1788 in Monroe County, North Carolina and died 1837/1838 Tennessee as his 2 sons James and John W. Bobbitt were married in Carroll County, Tennessee
Extracted marriages
 
Simpson Bobbitt is a son of John Bobbitt born 1762 in Granville County, North Carolina  and Mary Hazelwood.
The line ascends:
Drury Bobbitt m. Elizabeth J. Harris
John Richard Bobbitt m. Amy Alston
William Bobbitt m. Amy Bennett
John Bobbitt m. Sarah Owen
William Bobbet m. Elizabeth Whittington
 
Note:  Remember Marsha's cousin Frank Bobbitt's and Keith Bobbitt's Y-DNA results
 
Note:  We do not know who the overseer John M. Bobbitt is in the 1850 US Census or who his parents are.  John M. Bobbitt is not related to the Simpson family.  He is the hired help in the Simpson house talking to his boss Thomas Simpson when the census taker came.
 
Note:  Druscilla Simpson is not a Bobbitt as her maiden name is Miller.
 
Thomas Simpson was born 8 Nov 1797 York County, South Carolina, the son of Hugh Simpson born 1765 Clogher, County Tyrone, Ireland and Mary Miller, who migrated to US in 1791 and had 8 children.
From rootsweb Gawne tree by Daphine Gawne 2008
 
Thomas Simpson's wife is Druscilla Barnett Miller born 20 Apr 1814 York County, South Carolina, daughter of John Miller and Jane Druscilla Neely.  Druscilla died 25 Mar 1888 Madison County, Mississippi
From ancestry Mansell Family Tree by jgmansell, St. Louis, Missouri
 
1850 US Census, Madison County, Mississippi
Thomas Simpson, age 52, born about 1798 born South Carolina, planter
Druscilla Simpson age 35 born about 1815 South Carolina
John M. Bobbitt age 28 born about 1822 South Carolina, Overseerer
 
Note:  It is a possibility the below John Bobbitt is the above John M. Bobbitt because of the similarity of the born about 1822 South Carolina in the 1850 Census and born about 1823 South Carolina in the Mansell family records.
 
John Bobbitt born about 1823 South Carolina, but no parents known
married Narcissus Ward, daughter of Moses C. Ward and Sarah Wilhoite
Moses C. Ward was born 1804 Virginia and died 1850 Madison County, Missisissippi
Moses C. Ward's parents are James Monroe Ward and Rachel Kidd
James Monroe Ward's father is Blackman Ward
 
Children of John Bobbitt and Narcissus Ward are:
1.  Dora Eugena Bobbitt born Oct 1856 Mississippi and died 1940 Florence, Rankin, Mississippi
married Pompfret Holden Hale and had 10 children all deceased but maybe a daughter.
The Mansell family has photos of Dora
2.  William Ellis Bobbitt born 14 Sep 1866 Mississippi and died 24 Mar 1932 Louisiana
married Helen Cash and had 3 children all deceased who died in Texas.
Note:  No living grandchilden were given in the Mansell information, but if we knew there was a male grandson,  he needs a Y-DNA test.
 
Note:  Marsha needs to ask the Mansell family if they know there are living male Bobbitts.
 
Back to the Ward family.
Moses C. Ward and Jesse B Ward are step brothers
The descendancy of jgmansell is:
Hugh Simpson and Mary E Miller
James J Simpson and Elizabeth Moore
Jesse B Ward and Lydia Simpson
William J Ward and Lucy Eliza Riley
Juliet E  Ward and Jefferson Garland
Living Garland and Elbert Dickson Mansell
Living Mansell
From ancestry, Mansell Family Tree by jgmansell, St. Louis, Missouri
 
Regards,
Marsha

 
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Chird wrote:
Wonder if Simpson Bobbitt could be associated with this Simpson family?
 
 
http://keithbobbitt.com/1850census/mississippi/mississippi0004.htm



Email by Marsha Berry

May 18, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Marsha's report of her search for Mr. Bobbitt surveyor and his wife Lodicia in Tennessee.  Mr. Bobbitt's name may or may not be John and could be another name.
 
According to Chird's record The Ties That Bind, Lodicia Bobbitt and her children came out of Carroll County, Tennessee with the Cook, Cardwell, and Burrow families
and Chird has they came out of Bedford County, Tennessee to go to Arkansas.
 
Why would a 1830 US Census, Carroll County, Tennessee widow Lodicia Bobbitt travel with children from Carroll County through Maury County to Bedford County, as it is backtracking to go to Arkansas?
 
Who is Lodicia?
 
There is one possibility of a Lodicia as the information of this Lodicia previously marrying and having one child is very vague and does not fit the Davis records.
 
Lodicia Wigby birth estimate about 1780 to 1816 in Tennessee
Lodicia Wigby reportedly married William Davis in Tennessee and had one child Nancy born about 1826 in Kentucky but the records do not fit the child Nancy or her father William Davis or a Wigby marriage.
Lodicia Wigby married _________ and estimated died in about 1895.
 
Marsha will check more on this Lodicia.
 
Marsha found the Second Survey District of Tennessee 1806 to 1831 of Middle Tennessee: Bedford, Coffee, Franklin, Lincoln, Marshall, Moore, Cannon, Giles, Grundy, Marion, Maury, Rutherford, Warren and Williamson Counties.  No surveyor given.
 
Marsha found the Fourth Survey District of Tennessee 1808 to 1820 has John McClellan surveyor for Anderson, Bledstoe, Campbell, Knox, Overton, Rhea, Roane Counties by Douthat, 1988. 
 
1819 Tennessee Legislature created the Surveyor Districts 7 through 13 and in
1820 began surveying them.
Andrew Jackson made Tennessee a state and served in the Tennessee Legislature.
1825 US President John Quincy Adams elected
1829 US President Andrew Jackson elected
 
Marsha researched the Tennessee Department of State, Tennessee State Library and Archives and found Bobbitts and no connections as they were too late in time or black.
 
1. Box 5, Accounts, Receipts for Bill Houston Bills II, W. T. Bobbitt, Kenny Louis.
Results:  W. T. Bobbitt born about 1837 age 43 born North Carolina, parents born North Carolina, wife Harriet in 1880 and 1900 US Census in Shepherdsville, Bulitt, Kentucky.
 
2. Members of the Confederate Relief and Historical Association Index: 
A-C:
Last name, First name, Rank, Regiment, Company, Army, Page:
Bobbitt, P. A., Orderly Sargeant, 12th NC Cavalry, F, NVa, 33
Results:  The Confederate Army existed from 1861 to 1865.
Who is P. A. Bobbitt?  Not found so far.
 
3. Tennessee Confederate Pension Applications:  Madison County, Tennessee:
Carter Bobbitt, Madison County, Tennessee, 14th Cav
John Richard Bobbitt, Madison County, Tennessee, wife is Sarah Ann Bobbitt
Results:  1880 US Census, Madison County, Tennessee
Carter Bobbitt, age 30 born about 1850 Tennessee, father and mother born in North Carolina, married and laborer, race is black
John Bobbitt, race is black
Extracted marriage:
Carter Bobbitt married Maggie Taylor 12 Jan 1889 Madison County, Tennessea
 
There are many other places for Marsha to look online.  The search continues.
Regards,
Marsha


Email by Marsha Berry

May 22, 2010

Hello Eileen, Chird, and Keith,
 
From 1798 to 1817 Alabama was the Territory of Mississippi.  Mississippi was a state in 1817.
 
Attach:  bmp
Mississippii Statehood and Alabama Territory 1817 map
 
The Territory of Alabama was organized incorporated territory of the USA  from 15 August 1817 to 14 Dec 1819 when Alabama became a state.
Source: Wikipedia, Territory of Alabama
 
According to the 1860 Big Creek Township, Craighead County, Arkansas Census, Moses L. Bobbitt head of household with his wife Rachel and children and Lodicia Bobbitt 80 years old and was born about 1780 in Alabama.
 
Note in the census Moses and Rachel Bobbitt can not read or write. Could Lodicia read and write?  Lodicia's surveyor husband Mr. Bobbitt would have to read and write.
 
The year 1780 would be before Alabama was the Territory of Mississippi.  The American Revolution came to Alabama in 1780. 
 
In 1795 the 31st parallel belonged to the US and the Ellicott line was surveyed in Alabama.  Squatters moved into Alabama and forced the Indians off their lands. 
Source:  Alabama State History and My Alabama Genealogy
 
There are 2 possibilities here.
 
Questions: 
In 1795 did a 15 year old Lodicia meet a surveyor Mr. Bobbitt who came to Alabama?
or
Did Lodicia's parents leave Alabama in 1780 with baby Lodicia for Tennessee? 
or both. 
 
One migration route was out of Morgan and Madison Counties, Alabama to Madison County, Tennessee next to Carroll County, Tennessee. 
Source:  From Alabama to Arkansas, migration of Moore Barnett's children before 1840
 
We need to check into Morgan and Madison Counties, Alabama and Madison County, Tennessee for Mr. Bobbitt.
 
This migration route would place Lodicia where she would meet or remeet Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor in Madison or Carroll County, Tennessee. 
 
Regards,
Marsha

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Email by Marsha Berry

May 26, 2010

Hello Chird,
 
Chird, Marsha found where you obtained the 24 October 1824 Peter Bobbett married Elizabeth Evans, daughter of Anthony Evans; James Bunch, Surety.
 
Source:  Bedford County, Virginia Marriage Bonds
 
Marsha believes there is an importance to this Peter Bobbitt as he does not fit with the other Bobbitts and Bobbitt marriages, so Marsha will be looking into the possibilities including more of what Marsha previously sent in her email.
 
Regards,
Marsha


 

Email by Marsha Berry

May 27, 2010

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Who is Peter Bobbett born about 1790 to 1800 in either Virginia or England?   So far Peter Bobbett is not found born in Virginia, so that leaves somewhere in England.   This is possible for Mr. Bobbitt surveyor as well as he could have been in Virginia for a short time before going to Tennessee and came originally from England.
 
What possible connection could Mr. Bobbitt surveyor born about 1780 to 1790 and died before the 1830 US census in Carroll County, Tennessee have to do with Peter Bobbett being married 24 October 1824 Bedford County, Virginia to Elizabeth Evans, daughter of Anthony Evans; James Bunch, Surety?
 
Mr. Bobbitt and Peter Bobbett are both not connected to people in Tennessee or Virginia.  Mr. Bobbitt surveyor and Peter Bobbett could be related. Please follow me on this as some is fact and some is theory only.
 
Note:  Theory: It is possible Chird's Bobbitt line could be from Beccles, Suffolk, England. 
Note: This Beccles, Suffolk, England line Is Not Marsha's and Keith's Suffolk, England line.
 
There is no burial for a Peter Bobbitt's son Peter Bobbitt in Beccles, Suffolk, England. 
 
Peter Bobbett married in 1824 in Virginia, USA is possibly the son of Peter Bobbitt burial 5 Jan 1802 Saint Michael, Beccles, Suffolk, England
 
Father of above Peter Bobbitt is:
Peter Bobbit burial 24 July 1778 Saint Michael, Beccles, Suffolk, England
Source:
1500's to 1900's All Bobbitt and Variations National Burial Index England and Wales,
page 12 or 14
 
Eileen, please look for a Will for both Peter Bobbitt buried 5 Jan 1802 and Peter Bobbit buried 24 July 1778.  Thank you. 
 
 
Regards,
Marsha

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Email by Marsha Berry

June 6, 2010

Hello Eileen, and Chird and Keith, 
 
Eileen, please look up the following for us.
 
As you know Mr. Bobbitt the surveyor in Carroll County, Tennessee and Peter Bobbett in Bedford County, Virginia seem to fit as close relatives, as they do not fit with anyone else.
 
To review:
Bedford County, Virginia Marriage Bonds
October 20, 1824; Peter Bobbett and Elizabeth Evans, daughter of Anthony Evans; James Bunch, Surety
 
Anthony Evans is in the 1790, 1800, 1810 and 1820 US Census in Virginia
Anthony Evans is in the 1820 Census, Southern District, Bedford County, Virginia.
 
The proposed father of Peter Bobbett is Peter Bobbett as there is no father for Peter Bobbett in Virginia or Tennessee, so we need to look elsewhere.
 
Question:
1.  When Mr. Bobbitt surveyor died before the 1830 US Census, Carroll County, Tennessee, did Peter Bobbett in Bedford County, Virginia go to another state or back to England or pass
away?
 
Note we have no idea of where Mr. Bobbitt surveyor came from, maybe he was shortly in Virginia and before that he came from England.
 
Peter Bobbett married in 1824 may have been born from the 1790's to 1800.
 
There is no burial for Peter Bobbett in Virginia or even Tennessee,  but that does not mean it did not happen.
 
Where are there records for a Peter Bobbett?
Answer:  Beccles, Suffolk, England. 
 
Please note the Beccles, Suffolk, England line is not paper trail or Y-DNA related to either Marsha's male Bobbitt cousin or Keith Bobbitt.
 
To review the search for the proposed father of Peter Bobbett which can be spelled Peter Bobbitt and his grandfather Peter Bobbit:
 
The 1500's to 1900's All Bobbitt and Variations National Burial Index England and Wales, page 12 of 14 
5 Jan 1802, Peter Bobbitt, Beccles, Suffolk, St. Michael
24 July 1778, Peter Bobbit, Beccles, Suffolk, St. Michael

Eileen, please look for a Will or other record for the 5 Jan 1802 Peter Bobbitt and the 24 Jul 1778 Peter Bobbit.  Thank you.
 
The 5 Jan 1802 Peter Bobbitt may be the same as on 
foxearth.org.uk
Beccles Streets
Streets New Market Properties
Beccles, Suffolk, England
Peter Bobbett
 
New Market 32 Stalls D8 and D9 [The Toy Box June 1997]
The house, or a previous house, appears to have been built about 1729; "two butchers' Stalls lately made into 2 shops"
 
1779 Beccles Manor Court, Mary Blowers, widow of Thomas Blowers,
tenement at upper edge of Market near Butchers' Shambles, then in occupation of Peter Bobbett, formerly 2 Butchers' stalls.
 
New Market 32
Owner 1779 Mary Blowers
 
Occupant 1779 Peter Bobbett
 
Owner 1780 and 1781 Mary Blowers
 
Occupant 1780 and 1781 John Cutton 
  
Other and later Bobbett to research:
Norfolk England Record hopefully on norfolk.gov.uk
Bobbett, William, of Beccles, Suffolk, England, 1829-1831
 
Thank you Eileen.
Please keep in touch with me.
Regards,
Marsha


 

Email by Marsha Berry

June 10, 2010

Hello Eileen,
 
I do not know if you have researched in Salt Lake City yet, but Marsha has found some round about information that should help more.
 
You know that Mr. [possibly John]  Bobbitt, a surveyor died before the 1830 US Census in Carroll County, Tennessee, as his widow Lodicia or Dsa or Disa and her children were in that census.
 
Lodicia was born in Alabama.  There is the Tennessee Valley trail out of Alabama through Tennessee, over to Virginia that Lodicia's family could have taken.
 
And, a very possible relative Peter Bobbett who in 1824 in Bedford County, Virginia, married Elizabeth Evans, daughter of Anthony Evans.
 
Question:  How can a Mr. Bobbitt in Carroll County, Tennessee have a connection to Peter Bobbett in Bedford County, Virginia?
 
Is there a relative related to Peter Bobbett in or near Carroll County or Maury County, Tennessee that Mr. Bobbitt first, then Lodicia and their children would know and could stay with between 1820 and 1830.
 
Answer:  Yes
 
Sinia or Sina Evans, born 1800 Bedford County, Virginia, a daughter of Anthony Evans, married Henry Smith in 1819 in Maury County, Tennessee. 
Henry Smith was born 24 March 1791 in Bedford County, Virginia, son of Thomas Smith and Elizabeth Haynes, and died 3 Sep 1843 in Hunter's Cemeterhery, Mount Pleasant, Tennessee
 
Henry Smith's father is Thomas Smith born 7 Aug 1745 Goochland, Virginia and died about 1814 in Bedford County, Virginia and Elizabeth Haynes born 1769/1770 Bedford County, Virginia, daughter of Henry Haynes and Bersheba Hampton, and died in 1816 Bedford County, Virginia.   Elizabeth's father Henry Haynes born 1745 Bedford County, Virginia and died 6 Aug 1816 Bedford County, Virginia and mother Bersheba Hampton born 1747 Bedford County, Virginia and died 1784 Bedford County, Virginia.
 
Sources:
1820 US Census, Williamsport, Maury, Tennessee
Henry Smith correct young married
 
1830 and 1840 US Census, Maury County, Tennessee
 
 
Descendants of Rev. Guy Smith
Ancestors of Charles Wayne Brooks
Carl and Sue Hampton Tree as of 2009 on ancestry
 
Theory and circumstances:


 

Email by Marsha Berry

June 11, 2010

Hello Eileen,
 
Sorry Eileen, but somehow my gmail sent out my email and I was not finished.
 
Back to theory and circumstances.
Mr. Bobbitt, surveyor, came from England just like Peter Bobbett.  Mr. Bobbitt, surveyor, was in Washington, D. C. a short time, and was in Virginia a short time before he went to Tennessee to survey.
.
There are 2 attached maps, one of Bedford County, Virginia and one of Tennessee.
 
Eileen, I hope you have findings in Salt Lake.
Thank you.
Regards,
Marsha
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Marsha Berry wrote:
Hello Eileen,
 
I do not know if you have researched in Salt Lake City yet, but Marsha has found some round about information that should help more.
 
You know that Mr. [possibly John]  Bobbitt, a surveyor died before the 1830 US Census in Carroll County, Tennessee, as his widow Lodicia or Dsa or Disa and her children were in that census.
 
Lodicia was born in Alabama.  There is the Tennessee Valley trail out of Alabama through Tennessee, over to Virginia that Lodicia's family could have taken.
 
And, a very possible relative Peter Bobbett who in 1824 in Bedford County, Virginia, married Elizabeth Evans, daughter of Anthony Evans.
 
Question:  How can a Mr. Bobbitt in Carroll County, Tennessee have a connection to Peter Bobbett in Bedford County, Virginia?
 
Is there a relative related to Peter Bobbett in or near Carroll County or Maury County, Tennessee that Mr. Bobbitt first, then Lodicia and their children would know and could stay with between 1820 and 1830.
 
Answer:  Yes
 
Sinia or Sina Evans, born 1800 Bedford County, Virginia, a daughter of Anthony Evans, married Henry Smith in 1819 in Maury County, Tennessee. 
Henry Smith was born 24 March 1791 in Bedford County, Virginia, son of Thomas Smith and Elizabeth Haynes, and died 3 Sep 1843 in Hunter's Cemeterhery, Mount Pleasant, Tennessee
 
Henry Smith's father is Thomas Smith born 7 Aug 1745 Goochland, Virginia and died about 1814 in Bedford County, Virginia and Elizabeth Haynes born 1769/1770 Bedford County, Virginia, daughter of Henry Haynes and Bersheba Hampton, and died in 1816 Bedford County, Virginia.   Elizabeth's father Henry Haynes born 1745 Bedford County, Virginia and died 6 Aug 1816 Bedford County, Virginia and mother Bersheba Hampton born 1747 Bedford County, Virginia and died 1784 Bedford County, Virginia.
 
Sources:
1820 US Census, Williamsport, Maury, Tennessee
Henry Smith correct young married
 
1830 and 1840 US Census, Maury County, Tennessee
 
 
Descendants of Rev. Guy Smith
Ancestors of Charles Wayne Brooks
Carl and Sue Hampton Tree as of 2009 on ancestry
 
Theory and circumstances:

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June 23, 2010

Email by Marsha Berry

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Marsha hopes everyone had a great Father's Day 20 June.
 
On Wednesday, 23 June 2010. Marsha and Eileen Sears are meeting at Marsha's house at 1 pm to discuss Eileen's Saturday, 19 June findings for the Chird Bobbitt research.
 
Marsha and Eileen will read over Eileen's findings after our meeting to see if we missed something.
 
Eileen did not find a Will for the 1802 burial of Peter Bobbett in Beccles. Suffolk, England, which may have stated a relationship to Peter Bobbett in Bedford County, Virginia and Mr. John Bobbitt, surveyor in Carroll County, Tennessee.
 
Chird, what we have at this point is circumstantial genealogy and it is acceptable according to my friend and BYU genealogy collegue Dr. Amy Harris who gave us Eileen Sears.
Marsha's William Bobbet born about 1558 in Suffolk County, England was circumstantial.
 
Marsha knows it is time to present what Marsha has been holding back, more about the Bedford County, Virginia Bobbitt and Bobbett.
 
1.  There are two families of Bobbitt's with the same given names and they Are Not Related.
 
a.  One Bobbitt family in Bedford County, Virginia is not Quaker.
 
b.  Another Bobbett family in Bedford County, Virginia is a Quaker.
 
Let's look at Bobbitt family a. the non Quaker
 
Randolph Bobbitt born about 1772 lived in Bedford County, Virginia.
Randolph Bobbitt married Rachel Phillips 28 March 1815 in Grayson County, Virginia.  Rachel Phillips born 1795 Montgomery County, Virginia and died in 1838.  Her older siblings were born in Pittsylvania County, Virginia.
 
Let's look at Bobbet family b. the Quaker Bobbett
 
On record as:
Bobbett
1792, 12, 24. Randolph & Nancy Mays. Elijah Mays, Surety.  Consent of John Mays.  Married by John Ayers, Dec. 27, 1792
 
1824, 10, 20. Peter and Elizabeth Evans. dt Anthony. James Bunch, Surety.
 
Source:  Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. VI [Virginia], Book Number 2736, page 880
Can be seen on ancestry
 
Note:  
Randolph Bobbett came to the USA a little before 1792.  
Peter Bobbett came to the USA a little before 1824.
Mr. John Bobbitt, surveyor, came to the USA a little before 1824.
 
Most Quakers who came to the USA came from the England midlands like Cheshire, Lancashire, Derbyshire, Staffordshire, and Nottinghamshire. 
Most who came from the East Counties in England were Church of England or Puritan.
There were no Quakers in East England or Suffolk.
Those who came from East England were converted to be Quaker in America. 
Source:  Coming to America:  The Quakers by Sue Roe. Copyright 2002.
 
Note:  Lucy Leftwich was a Quaker and did not marry a Bobbitt.  A Quaker father and the Quaker community would not allow a daughter to not marry a Quaker.
Source:  Coming to America: The Quakers by Sue Roe, Copyright 2002
 
Note:  A Quaker would give good friend valuables, like land, but William Leftwich and William Bobbitt Are Not a relative or an in-law.  Remember Quaker records do not tell the difference between a relative, in-law or a friend. However, Quaker marriage records are very good and these marriage records are on ancestry and the 2 Bobbett in Bedford County, Virginia are above.  Note:  there is no William Bobbitt in the Quaker marriages.
William Leftwich deeded land to William Bobbitt the non Quaker, 26 Jan 1788, " out of the love and affection I have for William Bobbitt."
 
William Leftwich Sr. 26 June 1820 Will
Source:  Bedford County, Virginia Will Index, 1754-1830.
 
Question:
Eileen, can we obtain William Leftwich's Will?
There are four Leftwich Wills and one Lucy Bobbitt Will on usgenweb archives, Bedford County Virginia Wills Index, 1754-1830.
 
Note:  27 Oct 1788 Bedford County, Virginia Will Index, 1754-1830, the Lucy Bobbitt here is not a Leftwich, in regard to her son William Bobbitt receiving land.
 
There are 2 Lucy Leftwich:
Lucy Leftwich, daughter of Thomas Leftwich and Jane Gincy Stratton, born 8 June 1788 Bedford County, Virginia and died before 1816 Bedford County, Virginia
Source:  Martha Witt research
 
and
 
Lucy Leftwich born 1757 Bedford County, Virginia and died in Virginia or Kentucky
married Daniel Brown 4 Aug 1781 in Bedford County, Virginia
had 4 children:
1.  Elizabeth Brown born 26 Dec 1772 Bedford County, Virginia and married Benjamin Mead 29 Dec 1796 Bedford County, Virginia. Benjamin Mead was born 14 Mar 1772 Bedford County, Virginia
2. Shadrack Brown born 10 Mar 1779 Bedford County, Virginia
3. Lowden Brown
4. Nancy Brown
 
Father Augustine Leftwich
Source:
Book:  Mead Relations
Author:  A. M. Prichard
Published:  Stauton, Virginia, 1933
page 130
Note:  The Mead family went to Greenup County, Kentucky.
 
Remember:
Marsha's and Keith's Bobbitt line Randolph Bobbitt born about 1715 in old Prince George County, Virginia, son of James [of Hanover] Bobbitt and Elizabeth, married a Lucy, but not a Leftwich.  Marsha's Randolph Bobbitt died in 1777.
They had a son Randolph Bobbitt born 1730 in Virginia and he had a son Randolph Bobbitt born 1752 Winston Dalton, Pittsylvania, Virginia and 1776 married Fanny Walden.  Randolph and Fanny had a son Randolph born 1784 and died 1829 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia.
 
Marsha's male Bobbitt cousin's Y-DNA is the same as Keith Bobbitt's Y-DNA.
 
Chird, your Y-DNA is completely different and you are not related to Keith and I. 
Chird, as of now you seem to be fitting well into the coming from East England converted in Washington D.C., Maryland, Pennsylvania or Virginia Quaker Bobbet.
 
Marsha will read over what Eileen Sears found in Salt Lake and report to all what we will do next.  Eileen and I are very flexable in this research. 
 
Any thoughts Chird and Keith?  Please email all of us before the 23rd.
 
Thank you so much for researching Eileen as it is very appreciated.
Regards,
Marsha


June 21, 2010

Email by Chird Bobbitt

I've got Bobbits/Bobbetts in my family too, although I haven't got as far back as you. Mine were all Quakers living in and around Bristol.
http://www.british-genealogy.com/forums/showthread.php?59497-John-Bobbitt-1700-1765&p=398844

Sue
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Marsha
 
This is interesting that Quakers came this southern route if they are my ancestors
 
Is is likely that the Peter Bobbett in Beccles came from Ireland?
 
Eileen, let me know when I need to reimburse you for your time.
 
Thanks
 
Chird


 

June 22, 2010

Email by Marsha Berry

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Chird, your Bobbett family who were The Church of England came directly from Eastern England to the USA because your Bobbitt family were not Quaker in England.  Only two of your Bobbitt relatives were converted to Quaker in the USA in Virginia.
 
The source for your relative Peter Bobbett is from the
1500's to 1900's All Bobbitt and Variations National Burial index England and Wales, page 12 of 14,
available burial records records for family with the Peter given name and the Peter naming pattern, finding Peter Bobbitt buried 5 January 1802 in Beccles, Suffolk, England and Peter Bobbit buried 24 July 1778 in Beccles, Suffolk, England.
 
Your relative Peter Bobbett because of the Peter naming pattern came directly to the United States from England and he became converted in Virginia in the USA to Quaker.
 
Peter Bobbett's relative Mr. John Bobbitt, surveyor:
 
With his relative Peter Bobbett married in 1824 in Bedford County, Virginia,
Mr. John Bobbitt, surveyor, because of the Virginia/Tennessee surveyor history, went to Tennessee to survey.  Mr. John Bobbitt, surveyor, met an Alabama girl Lodicia somewhere along the Tennessee Valley trail which ran diagonally from Alabama through Tennessee to Virginia, and they married and had children.
Source of Mr. Bobbitt, surveyor in Pond Branch, Carroll County, Tennessee and John Bobbitt:
History of Carroll County, Tennessee, Vol. 1 by Turner, pages 52 and 53
 
Eileen and I do not know the religion of Mr. John Bobbitt, surveyor.  Chird, would you know the religion of your Lodicia or Disa or Dsa Bobbitt and her children, one who includes your Moses L. or Len Bobbitt?
 
Your Quaker Bobbitt or Bobbett line relatives from Bedford County, Virginia are:
Bobbett
1792, 12, 24.   Randolph Bobbett and Nancy Mays. Elijah Mays, Surety. Consent of John Mays.  Married by John Ayers, Dec. 27, 1792
 
1824, 10, 20:  Peter Bobbett and Elizabeth Evans. dt Anthony Evans. James Bunch, Surety.
 
From:  Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. VI [Virginia],
page 880
 
Chird, not all of your Bobbitts are Quakers, only 2 are known, Peter and Randolph Bobbett.
 
Remember, you are not related to another Randolph Bobbitt who was also in Bedford County, Virginia, who was not a Quaker and who was the Pittsylvania Bobbitt line and this one is related to Keith and I.
 
Thank you for your imput Chird as the more you relate to Eileen and I, the more it helps us with your research.
Regards,
Marsha


 

June 22, 2010

Email by Eileen Sears

Hello Chird, Marsha, and Keith:
I'm looking forward to meeting with Marsha tomorrow. . .
Be in touch.
Regards,
Eileen

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June 23, 2010

Email by Marsha Berry

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Thank you Eileen for your research.  It shows one thing, that Chird's Bobbitt genealogy is mixed in here and there and must be sorted out from Marsha's and Keith's Bobbitt line in the same areas.
 
Marsha's and Keith's Bobbitt lines are on rootsweb as a source to compare.
Look at keithbobbitt.com or The Bobbitt Family Around the World.  There are other Bobbitt lines related to Marsha and Keith that have more Bobbitt names that branch out differently on rootsweb.
 
The research shows the Madison County, Tennessee Wills,  marriage bonds, marriages, tax records, and cemetery records are all Marsha's and Keith's Bobbitt families.  Same for the Henderson, Gibson, and Maury County, Tennessee records.
 
Mr. [John] Bobbitt, surveyor, did not settle down long enough in one place for the marriage bonds, marriages, tax records, or Wills found thus far.   
 
Lodicia and Mr. [John] Bobbitt, surveyor, were probably married about 1815/1816 somewhere along the Tennessee Valley diagonal trail extending from the Alabama border through Tennessee to the Virginia border, possibly by a traveling minister.
 
Mr. Bobbitt's and Lodicia's 6 children born in various counties in Tennessee are:
1.  Lively Bobbitt born about 1818 married Miss Moore
2.  Emmaline Bobbitt born about 1820 married Daveney Weathers Burrow
3.  Edward G. Bobbitt born about 1825 married Carolyn Waldrum
4.  Samuel P. Bobbitt born about 1827 married Nancy Cardwell
5.  Moses L. or Len Bobbitt born about 1828 married Rachel
6.  Lodicia T. Bobbitt born about 1830 married William T. Sims
 
Note:  Very soon after the 1830 US Census Carroll County Tennessee, the widow Lodicia and her children left with the Burrow and Cardwell families for Arkansas because they are in the 1840 US Census in Arkansas.
 
Marsha will go over the miscellaneous Tennessee records with Eileen during our meeting 23 June 2010 at 1pm.  And Marsha and Eileen will set some research goals and to think outside of the box to find Mr. [John] Bobbitt, surveyor.
 
Chird, are you willing for Eileen and I to research more?  I am willing.  Eileen?
 
Eileen, we need to check on traveling ministers in the Tennessee Valley trail area from about 1815 to 1830.
 
Regards,
Marsha


 

June 23,, 2010

Email by Chird Bobbitt

Marsha
 
Yes Marsha & Eileen I would very much like for you to continue on the research.
 
In listing Lodicia's children you have Edward G. Bobbett with the wrong birth year & spouse
 
See: http://keithbobbitt.com/1850census/arkansas/arkansas0002.htm
 
Also you left off Martha Ann Bobbett who married Bill Cook, both are listed in the books "The Ties That Bind" and "The History of Craighead County, Arkansas"
 
Chird


 

June 23, 2010

Email by Marsha Berry

Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
Eileen and Marsha met together at 1 pm on 23 June 2010 at Marsha's house and went over and discussed Eileen's research findings.
 
Eileen and Marsha are ready to do more of Chird's Bobbitt research.
We combined our ideas and have the following research agenda:
 
1.  Will for William Leftwich - 26 June 1820
 
Eileen, is there any Bobbitt mentioned in the Will?
 
2.  Circuit Minister - Tennessee Valley marriage records
 
3.  Will for Lodicia Bobbitt - [Greene and Craighead Counties, Arkansas]
 
4.  Will for Peter Bobbett, Bedford County, Virginia
 
Eileen, please note Chird's corrections for children of Mr. [John] Bobbitt, surveyor, and wife Lodicia.
 
Edward G. Bobbitt's birth date is 1818 and his wife is Elizabeth.
 
Add child Martha Ann Bobbitt and husband Bill Cook.
 
Eileen and Marsha will contact each other when we find more. 
 
Thank you Eileen for your research.  You are always good to work with.  We had a good meeting.
 
Regards,
Marsha


 

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