Research of Chird Bobbitt's line Page 5

This is an email history of the research of Chird Bobbitt's genealogy line by Marsha Berry, Eileen Sears, and Chird Bobbitt

The DNA Loci Designation DYS # and Y-Chromosome Allele results for Chird's line is...

Loci DYS 393 DYS 390 DYS 19 DYS 391 DYS 385a DYS 385b DYS 426 DYS 388 DYS 439 DYS 389-1 DYS 392 DYS 389-2
Allele 13 25 14 11 11 14 12 12 12 13 13 29
Results 13 25 14 11 11 14 ? ? 12 13 13 29
 



October 20, 2010

Email by Marsha Berry

Hello Eileen,
 
Marsha did correctly type the 4 October 1730 burial date for Philipus or Phillip Bobbett the first time Marsha typed it in her 16 Oct 2010 email, Updated Marsha's ancestry tree for Chird and Peter Bobbett m Ann Swallow buried 24 Jul 1778 Beccles.
   
Yes type-o's do happen and I did have a type-o on the year of burial for Phillip Bobbett the 2nd time I typed it in my 16 Oct 2010 email.
 
Previous to my 16 Oct 2010 email with the one year type-o error,
on 15 Oct 2010 I had placed the burial date of 4 October 1730 for Philipus or Phillip Bobbett on my private ancestry tree for Chird.  And the 4 October 1730 burial date is on my PAF5.2. 
 
And, in the 16 Oct 2010 email I only included information about the 2 newest children found, Phillip and Daniel chr 1736.
 
There are a few items that I did not bring up on my 16 Oct 2010 email about Chird's genealogy and I will bring them up to everyone later. 
 
I will bring up one now that Eileen mentioned in her Tuesday, 19 Oct 2010 email and gave the name Abraham Bobbett infant in North Cove in the 1500's to 1900's All Bobbitt and Variations National Burial Index England and Wales,
so here it is the remainder of the information on page 8 of 14:
14 Oct 1737 Abraham Bobbett inf Suffolk, North Cove, Saint Botolph
 
Thanks Eileen.
 
Regards,
Marsha
 


On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 5:07 PM, Eileen Sears wrote:
Hi Marsha,
Hopefully my computer will be up and running soon.  I was wondering if you could make a correction for the burial of Phillip Bobbett - there are 2 different dates on this email.  The 4 Oct 1730 is the correct date.  Also, on the national burial index, there is a burial listed for Abraham Bobbett, infant in North Cove.  This can be added to the file as well.
Thanks,
Eileen


October 20, 2010

Email by Marsha Berry

Hello Chird, Eileen and Keith,
 
It is not something we do Eileen, but why are we having a problem correctly seeing and writing Abraham Bobbett's burial date?  I believe it is because someone wants to get our attention to be found as we would not have looked again and assumed it was for an Abraham we already had.
 
There is a 2nd Abraham Bobbett, son of William Bobbett and Susanna Budd Bobbett. It is not unusual to have 2 children with the same first names. My Crabb family has 2 sons John: one they called John the eldest and the other they called John the younger and both lived to their old age.
 
Let us all take another really good look at the burial date for Abraham Bobbett as it is fourteen or 14 Oct 1737 in North Cove, Suffolk, England.
 
In the 1500's to 1900's All Bobbitt and Variations National Burial Index England and Wales, page 8 of 14
is Abraham Bobbett 
Infant,
buried 14 Oct 1737 in Saint Botolph, North Cove, Suffolk, Englan
 
An online medical dictionary definition of Infant is a young human from the time of birth to one year of age.
 
We already have twin Abraham Bobbett baptised 5 Mar 1733 in Worlingham, Suffolk, England. 
If he died in 1737 he would be 4 years old in 1737 and not under the usual definition of an infant and would be under the definition of a young child.
 
However, in looking at Abraham's burial date of 14 Oct 1737, that is the same date as Susanna Bobbett's 14 Oct 1737 baptism date so Marsha knows that Abraham was buried on his sister's baptism day.  Abraham would have been born in 1737 to have him qualify as an Infant and he would be a twin brother to Susanna.  Marsha concludes parents William and Susanna Budd Bobbett had 2 sets of twins.
 
New proposed 14 children of William and Susanna Bobbett:
1. Elizabeth born 1719 Beccles
2. Peter born 1720 Beccles
3. William born 1723 Beccles
4. James baptised 2 May 1725 Barnby 
5. James baptised 2 Oct 1726 Barnby
6. Phillip born 1727 Worlingham
7. Daniel baptised 22 May 1730 Worlingham
8. Ezra baptised 9 Jul 1732 Worlingham
9. Abraham [twin] baptised 5 Mar 1733 Worlingham
10. Sarah [twin] baptised 5 Mar 1733 Worlingham
11. Daniel baptised 8 Aug 1736 North Cove
Note: to qualify as an Infant, Abraham would have been born in 1737 and as he was buried on his sister Susanna's baptism day, Marsha proposes Abraham is Susanna's twin brother.
12.  Abraham [proposed twin] buried 14 Oct 1737 North Cove
13. Susanna [proposed twin] baptised 14 Oct 1737 North Cove
14.  Mary baptised 2 Dec 1739 North Cove
 
Marsha sent this to everyone before, but here it is again.
Individual Record from old familysearch:
Susanna Bobbit
Christening:  14 Oct 1737 North Cove, Suffolk, England
Father:  Wm. Bobbit
Mother:  Susanna
Extracted christenings/baptisms
Batch No. C013662
Dates:  1696-1875
Source Call No. 0097131 Film
Parish registers for North Cove, 1696-1948. Church of England.  Parish Church of North Cove [Suffolk]
 
The important thing is that the 14 Oct 1737 North Cove, Suffolk, England burial date for Abraham and the 14 Oct 1737 baptism date for Susanna were previously put on the private ancestry tree Marsha has for Chird and on Marsha's PAF5.2.
 
Eileen, as old familysearch has no record, please research a birth/chr/baptism of a 2nd Abraham Bobbett.  Many "Thank you's" Eileen. 
 
Regards,
Marsha


 

October 31, 2010

Email by Marsha Berry

Hello Chird,
 
Sometimes census surprises us and family live places we don't expect.
 
What you are reading on your hyperlink on the private ancestry tree Marsha has for you but Marsha did not personally write in, but looked up the 1920 US Census, so the ancestry result is,
 
1920 Residence:  Cypert, White, Arkansas,
 
then it says 1 source citation
and when you click on it says 1920 United States Federal Census
 
and when one clicks on and reads the actual 1920 US census it has at the left top:
State:  Arkansas
County:  White
Enumeration District: 162
Then:
Cypert Township, Name of Incorporated Place: Worden
13 Jan 1920
 
All were born in Arkansas and parents were born in Arkansas:
 
43, 43,
Bobbitt, Fleming, head, age 23, home: rent, farmer, general farm
Bobbitt, Mary, wife, age 20
Bobbitt, William S., son, age 1/12
Churchill, Harry, brother, age 19, farmer, general farm
 
Chird, it will not be an official record like a census, but I can add a residence for you for Bald Knob, Bald Knob Township, White County, Arkansas.  Do you know the year or years they lived there?  Would you like me to do this?
 
Regards,
Marsha

 
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Chird wrote:
Marsha
 
As far as I know my father never lived in Cypert, White, AR as indicated here
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/19614914/person/829738587
 
Cypert is a township, not a city.
 
He and his first wife Mary T Watkins lived near Bald Knob, Bald Knob Twp, in White County, AR.
 
Thanks
 
Chird


November 1, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Chird,
 
Attached is a jpeg of the 1920 US Census Fleming Bobbitt and family Cybert Twp White Co AR,  which has your father Flemon or as spelled on the census, Fleming Bobbitt, his wife Mary, son William and brother Harry Churchill.
 
I placed this 1920 US Census jpeg plus the 4 photos you sent as attachments on your Sunday, 31 Oct 2010. 9:37 pm email on to the ancestry private Bobbitt tree that I have for you with Flemon Benjamin Bobbitt.
 
As far as the birth certificate for Earl Willard Bobbitt is concerned, I recommend you ask his family again for a copy of the birth certificate. Please let us know what happens.
 
Regards,
Marsha

Attachment 1...


November 1, 2010
Email by Chird Bobbitt
Marsha
 
Thanks so much for the 1920 census page. You can add this document too.
 
http://www.bobbittville.com/Bobbitt-FlemonMaryWatkinsMarriage-AR.jpg
 
As I said I do not have copies of a lot of documents I have listed on my site, so anything you have I am glad to get.
 
I will continue asking for Earl's birth certificate, may have to get it from the state.
 
Thanks again
 
Chird


Novermber 7, 2010
Email by Eileen Sears
Hi Chird, Marsha, and Keith,
I've attached my findings from my research of 6 November 2010.  We're another generation back!
Eileen

Attachment 1...


November 7, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Eileen, Chird, and Keith,
 
Chird, this is great news from Eileen. Chird, your Bobbitt line is back another generation thanks to Eileen. 
 
Thank you Eileen for going Saturday, 6 Nov 2010 to the Salt Lake City, Utah Family History Library.
 
Marsha is hoping the Norfolk County Council has a better quality copy of the 1708 Will of William Bobbit, yeoman of Ringsfield, Suffolk, England that can be ordered. 
 
Eileen, Marsha has 2 requests after you hear back from the Norfolk County Council and have ordered and received a better quality copy of the 1708 Will:
 
1. that you send Chird, Keith and Marsha a pdf of the original 1708 Will of William Bobbitt, yeoman of Ringsfield, Suffolk, England.
 
2. that you send Chird, Keith and Marsha a pdf of your transcription of the original 1708 Will of William Bobbitt, yeoman of Ringsfield, Suffolk, England
 
Note:  Eileen, just in case the Norfolk County Council does not have a better quality copy of the 1708 Will, did you make a copy of the original 1708 Will of William Bobbitt, yeoman of Ringfield, Suffolk, England while you were at the SLC FHL?  And, did you make a transcription of the 1708 Will?
 
Note: Marsha looked and the Norfolk Record Office online catalogue gave the date 23 Aug 1679 for the settlement bond that involves a John Bobbitt, cordwainer of Yarmouth, Norfolk.
 
The Great Yarmouth, Norfolk area needs to be researched. 
 
Eileen, Marsha believes there is no need for us to meet together to plan further research agenda until after the above is accomplished [taken from Eileen's 7 Nov 2010 Research Report for Bobbett Family of Beccles, Suffolk, England] and/or something else comes up in the Great Yarmouth, Norfolk area. 
 
Thank you Eileen.  Great job.  Keep in touch.
 
Regards,
Marsha


November 8, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Chird, Eileen and Keith,
 
For your Monday morning, 8 Nov 2010 reading and your records should read are on Chird's private ancestry tree by Marsha and you all have access.
 
Marsha has added William Bobbett [about 1650 to 1708 Will] and wife Mary [about 1655 to 12 Nov 1738 burial] and their 3 daughters for the present time called Miss Bobbett to Chird's private ancestry tree by Marsha.  Their sons William Bobbett and Peter Bobbett have been on the tree for some time.
 
Marsha took a look at the Peter Bobbett information on Chird's private ancestry tree which has no about marriage date and place, but the complete marriage date and place that has been there for some time:
 
Peter Bobbett [bailiffe] born about 1696 of Beccles, Suffolk, England
Married 25 July 1722 Ellough, Suffolk, England to Ann Swallows
Source:  Ellough Parish registers
 
Note:  What is so interesting about the family of Peter Bobbett and Ann Swallows is the number of deaths in their family in 1735 as in the Beccles CD Burials:
 
Father Peter Bobbett buried 6 Mar 1735
Mother Ann Swallows buried 9 Feb 1735
Son John Bobbett buried 11 Mar 1735
Son Peter Bobbett buried 14 Nov 1735
 
The only child that lived and married was John Bobbett that married Ann Ayton 5 Feb 1748 Ellough, Suffolk, England in the Ellogh Parish registers.
 
Please make note of the about births dates and place of Beccles, Suffolk, England on Chird's ancestry tree:
Father: Peter Bobbett born about 1696
Mother: Anne Swallows born about 1698
Son John Bobbett born about 1724
Son John Bobbett born about 1730 m. Ann Ayton
Son Peter Bobbett born about 1735
 
Question:  Marsha wonders what caused the deaths the same year of 1735 for 4 out of 5 members of the same family?  Maybe it was one of those diseases that runs through families as their extended family seem ok as they raised the surviving John.
 
An extra note as your records should read: Peter Bobbett, the son of Peter Bobbett and Mary Flowers:
born about 1757 Beccles, Suffolk, England
Burial: 24 July 1778 Beccles, Suffolk, Engand, Saint Michael
Source:  1500's to 1900's All Bobbet and Variations National Burial Index England and Wales
 
Regards,
Marsha


November 8, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hello Chird, Eileen, and Keith,
 
We have a miracle.
 
How does the date of 1500 sound?
 
Attached are pictures of the town of Marlingford, Norfolk, England, especially for you Chird.
 
Chird, you need to know Henry Bobbitt, of Marlingford, Norfolk, England who left a Will probated in 1671.
 
And, later...
 
Yes, Eileen and I have a very big announcement for Chird, and Eileen will make it after Eileen gets home from work today, Monday, 8 Nov 2010.  Yes, it is something to write home about and shout from the rooftops.
 
Regards,
Marsha


November 8, 2010
Email by Eileen Sears
Hi Chird, Marsha, and Keith,
Yesterday was a great day for miracles.  I definitely believe in the Hand of Providence. . .
I am sending the file of all the names that have been gleaned from the last months research.  As soon as I receive the will of William Bobbett of Ringsfield, Suffolk and the will of Henry Bobbett of Marlinsford, Norfolk, I will update this file. 
Eileen


November 8, 2010
Email by Eileen Sears
Hello,
I guess it really would be a miracle if you all get this file . . .
Eileen

Attachment 1...  This is a GED file.


November 8, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry
Hi Eileen,
 
Wednesday at 1:30 pm works for me for us to meet together at my house.  Thank you.   
 
I will go ahead and imput the information beginning with the parents of William Bobbett or Bobbit, yeoman from Ringfield, Norfolk, England from your 8 Nov 2010 Marlingford to Beccles tree on the private ancestry tree I have for Chird.
 
Regards,
Marsha

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Eileen Sears wrote:
Hi Marsha,
I'm so glad that you got the information.  Miracles do not cease!!  Go ahead and input the data, even though there will be a few updates when I obtain those 2 wills.  I could meet on Wednesday at 1:30.  Would that work for you?
Eileen

On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Marsha Berry wrote:
Hello Eileen,
 
I have your RootsMagic4 Marlingford to Beccles tree on my desktop and also have it on my PAF5.2 on my desktop.  They both read like they should.  Thank you Eileen.  Great job.
 
Eileen, with what I am reading on your other emails today, 8 Nov 2010, would you advise me to wait to put your Marlingford to Beccles tree information on the private ancestry tree I have for Chird or go ahead and put it on?
 
I would like to meet together and go over where we are now in the research and discuss if we have missed anything.  When are you free to meet at my house?
 
Regards,
Marsha

 
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Eileen Sears wrote:
Hi Chird, Marsha, and Keith,
Yesterday was a great day for miracles.  I definitely believe in the Hand of Providence. . .
I am sending the file of all the names that have been gleaned from the last months research.  As soon as I receive the will of William Bobbett of Ringsfield, Suffolk and the will of Henry Bobbett of Marlinsford, Norfolk, I will update this file. 
Eileen


November 9, 2010
Email by Chird Bobbitt
 
The progress you & Eileen are making is truly impressive!
 
I really felt lost after my DNA showed I was not related too all of you.
 
Thanks
 
Chird


November 10, 2010
Email by Marsha Berry

Keith,
 
Please add this email to your Bobbitt web site.  Thank you. 
 
Regards,
Marsha

Hi Keith,
 
As I have mentioned previously, Eileen and I are still researching Chird's genealogy and intend on going further back in time if we can.
 
There are some sources ready to put on your Bobbitt web site and you have my approval to do so and some we are waiting for furher information which are not ready to put on your Bobbitt web site. 
 
Ready to put on your Bobbitt web site is the main source for research for Chird's Bobbitt genealogy concerning all Marlingford, Norfolk, England births/baptisms, marriages and burials for Chird's
William Bobbit born 1648 Marlingford, Norfolk, England back to Edmund Bobbett buried 1611 Marlingford, Norfolk, England
is
SOURCE:
Footnote:
FHL Microfilm 1,657,180
Bibliography:
Baptisms, Marriages, Burials 1558-1783.
Salt Lake City, Utah FHL, Miciofilm 1,657,180, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah
 
Ready to put on your Bobbitt web site is
the source for the death of William Bobbett or Bobbet 1708 age 60 in Ringsfield, Suffolk, England is:
SOURCE:
Footnote: Item 2, 1707-1708; page 180; Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah
Short Footnote:  the same
Bibliography: Utah...Family History Library, Salt Lake City, Utah, FHL microfilm 1,545,225
 
Ready to put on your Bobbitt web site is
the source for the 12 Nov 1728 Beccles, Suffolk, England death of Mary Wright, wife of William Bobbett or Bobbet is:
SOURCE:
Footnote and Bibliograhy: Suffolk Family History Society, CD Charity no. 10877481087748, contains burials 1586-1833
 
Marsha refers you to Eileen's 7 Nov 2010 Research Report for Bobbett Family of Beccles for the family of William Bobbet or Bobbit and Mary Wright, which includes son William Bobbett who married Susannah Budd.
 
The below is not ready to put on your Bobbitt web site because Eileen is waiting for further information.
  
Because the middle panel of all pages of the 1708 Will of William Bobbit yeoman of Ringsfield, Suffolk, England were damaged and illegible, but Eileen could read enough to know who the parents were and most of the children were that Eileen found in the Salt Lake City, Utah Family History Center,
 
Eileen has written the Norfolk County Council to see if she can order a better copy of the 1708 Will of William Bobbet or Bobbit, [born 1648 Marlingford, Norfolk, England] yeoman of Ringsfield, Suffolk, England.
 
We are waiting for the Norfolk County Council to respond to Eileen.
 
If a better copy of the Will is available, I am sure after Eileen receives a better copy of the 1708 Will, she will make a pdf of the original and she will transcribe the Will on a pdf.  Eileen is a great Will transcriber as you remember Keith from my Bobbett in Suffolk County, England genealogy.
 
Regards,
Marsha


November 18,2010
Email by Marsha Berry
This email contains other emails that were attached to the end.

Hello Chird,
 
Chird, this 1831 Will for William Bobbett is not a link to your line.  He is not in the Beccles or Bungay births or marriages CD's.  He has come to Beccles from somewhere else before his 1st child was born in 1817 which absolutely does not fit your line.   And, there is no Walsingham or Lowestoff area link to your line either.
 
Eileen and I have your Bobbett line and the father of your Edmond[e] Bobbett buried 25 Dec 1611 in Marlingford, Norfolk, England is Thomas Bobbet 1576 Will in Ipswich, Suffolk, England and his father is Roger Bobbett 1521 Will in Ipswich, Suffolk, England.
Ipswich is only 40 miles away from Marlingford.
 
Chird, it is not unusual for Eileen to send Wills or other records that may or may not pertain to your line, because it is part of the research process.  Eileen sent me many Wills that were not my line.  Because Eileen and I do genealogy research we kept all of these Wills.
 
As I do not have a Thomas Bobbett with a son Edmond[e] in the 1576 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Will and following with the father Roger Bobbet in the 1521 Ipswich, Suffolk, England Will,
 
as I emailed from our last 10 Nov 2010 meeting, Eileen and I announced these 2 more generations of your family Chird.  Eileen and I will check more about the children in these 2 Wills.
 
I will be adding these 2 generations soon to the private ancestry tree I have for you Chird.
 
Regards,
Marsha
  


On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 6:10 AM, Chird wrote:
I print out all of the research emails and place them in a 3 ring binder with Eileens reports by mail for easier reference.
 
I was looking for the Walsinghan reference last night doing some searching in that area and came across the copy of the will Eileen sent.
 
Just wondered if it had been eliminated as a link.
 
Thanks
 
Chird
----- Original Message -----
From: Marsha Berry
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: Transcription of the Letters of Administration for William Bobbett of Beccles 1831

Hello Chird,
 
You asked in your Wed 17 Nov 2010, 1 pm email if anything was discovered about the William Bobbett in this 1831 Will?
 
What Eileen sent in her 10 Sep 2010 email was a Letter of Adminstration, which defined is a formal document issued by a court of probate appointing manager of assets and liabilities of the estate of the deceased in certain situations.  
 
The Letters of Administation for William Bobbett of Beccles has his widow Elizabeth Bobbett of Beccles, Suffolk, England and the Will was Probated on 10 Oct 1831.
 
Who is William Bobbett in the 1831 Will in Beccles, Suffolk, England?
 
Marsha proposes he is
 
In the 1500's to 1900's All Bobbet and Variations National Burial Index England and Wales,
 
27 Sep 1831 William John Bobbett age 48 Suffolk, England, St. Michael
 
Note:  William would be born about 1783. 
 
Marsha found William Bobbett's wife is Elizabeth Barrell in Beccles, Suffolk, England,
 
in the new Beta family search is England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 and
 
these are William John Bobbett and Elizabeth Barrell's children in Beccles, Suffolk, England:
 
1.  William Ralph Bobbett baptism/chr 28 Feb 1816 Beccles and death 17 Jan 1817 Beccles
 
2.  Mary Ann Bobbett baptism/chr 12 May 1818 Beccles
 
3.  Maria Elizabeth Bobbett baptism/chr 29 Mar 1820 Beccles
 
4.  Lucy Bobbett baptism/chr 3 Apr 1823 Beccles and death 11 Apr 1823 Beccles
 
5.  Frederick Barrell Bobbett baptism/chr 28 May 1824 Beccles
 
Indexing Project Batch Number C10525-1
System Origin:  England-ODM
Source Film Number 952985
 
The same children with their parents William John Bobbett and Elizabeth Barrell are on the old familysearch.  The birth/christening and death records are all extracted and that was done in 1981.
Source information:
Batch Number C105251 
Dates:          Source Call No          All Film
1813-1818    0952318-0952327
1819-1822    0918502-0918508
1823-1825    0952979-0952985
1827-1834    0918510-0918524
1835-1837    0918530-0918534
 
The source is Bishop's transcripts for the Archdeaconry of Suffolk, 1685-1875 Church of England.  Archdeaconry of Suffolk.
 
There is an Elizabeth Burrell [Barrell] with no husband giiven that married on 1 June 1813 of Fakenham, Norfolk, England but this record was not an extracted record, but was submitted by relatives so this may be a clue but is not a source.
 
Any questions?
 
Regards,
Marsha
 
 
  
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Chird wrote:
Was anything ever discovered about the William Bobbitt in this 1831 will?
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Eileen Sears
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2010 8:36 PM
Subject: Transcription of the Letters of Administration for William Bobbett of Beccles 1831

Hi everyone,
I wish this document would have been more helpful. . .  I hope that the CD's for Beccles and Bungay will arrive next week.  I'm sure to find some important information from them.
Email by Eileen Sears
November 23, 2010

Will of William Bobbitt of Ringsfield 1708

Transcription by Eileen Sears
18 November 2010

Attachment 1...


Email by Eileen Sears
November 23, 2010

Will of Henry Bobbett of Marlingford 1670
Transcription by Eileen Sears
18 November 2010

Attachment 1...







Page One

Goto Page Two

Goto Page Three

Goto Page Four

Goto Page Five