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The Family In England and America

Ongoing research of the Bobet/Bobbet/Bobbett/Bobbitt Family

The latest items of interest are listed between the tree roots below.  The items are listed in the order they were found and/or researched.  E-mails will be included to give you an understanding of what the 'thinking' was at the time.   Not all the information listed below may be about one particular Bobbitt family line.

 

 

Marsha Berry Research, July 2009

Marsha Berry initiates new research on The Bobbitt Family (Continued)

Background: 

Eileen Sears and Nanette Averett under the direction of Marsha Berry and Dr. Amy Harris are continuing their research of the ancestors of Marsha Berry.  Much research has been carried out by Eileen and Nanette.  Here are their research logs.

Bobbett Research Log[1].pdf

Research Log 2[1].pdf

Research Log 3[1].pdf

Research Log 4.doc

Research Log 5.doc

Research Log 4.pdf

Research  Log 5.pdf

Research Log 6.pdf

Research Log 7.pdf

Research Log 8.pdf

 

At this time, July 17, 2009, there are six Wills of particular interest that have been found and transcribed.  The following quote by Marsha Berry...

"Announcing: The 1510 Will of Johannes Bobbett of Ipswich, Suffolk, England
is Marsha and Keith's 'Bobbett in Suffolk County, England' family.

John gave his brother Thomas Bobbett his land in Campesey from Lady
Campesey.   Campesey or Campesse, Campsey or Campsea Ash or Ashe
are names for the same place.

There is a William Bobbett who was a witness.

The 1510 Johannes Bobbett transcribed Will can be seen in this site's
File Cabinet.

Either Johannes or Thomas or William is the grandfather of William Bobbet
born before 1558.

Remember William Bobbet born before 1558's Uncle John Bobbet probated
2 Feb 1576/1577 Blaxhall Will says he gives his nephew Robert his house
and lands in Ashe or Campsea Ash and Marlforth.   Uncle John Bobbet is
following the wishes of his deceased brother for his brother's 2 sons.
As Robert's brother William has no land, he can have his brother Robert's
lands in Grundisburgh and Burgh if Robert gives it to him, if not, his Uncle
John will give William his lands in Ashe.   Robert gave up his land in
Grundisburgh and Burgh to his brother William.   That is why William and
Katheryn Bobbet's children John, Dorothie, and Alice Bobbet are born in
Grundisburgh.

On Wednesday, 15 July 2009,
Marsha wrote Eileen Sears to obtain and transcribe these 2 Archdeaconry
of Suffolk Wills
in search of William born about 1558's father.  

These Wills are in Dr. Amy Harris's Bobbets in Suffolk County, England list,
Keith Bobbitt's Bobbitt Research Web Site,
Continuing Research,   Page One.


1. William Bobbett, Barham, 1554-1557

2. John Bobbet, Melton. 1540-1543

The Robard and Lionel Bobbett theories are getting less and less."

 

The Transcribed Bobbitt Wills of the 1500's In No Particular Order

Johannes Bobbett 1510

Johannes Bobet 1537     Corrected Will

Cecelye Bobbett 1577

Thomas Bobbet 1576

Roger Bobbett 1521

Johannes Bobbett 1580

Interesting Emails About The Wills And Logs

7 - 15 - 2009

Eileen,

This John Bobbet of Ipswich 1510 Will is great and is what we are looking for. John is giving his brother Thomas land in Campesey.  Plus the brother Thomas Bobbett, there is a William Bobbett who was a witness.  Great job Eileen.

Campesey, Campsee, Campsey or Campsea Ash or Ashe are all names for the same place. I believe John Bobbet of Ipswich 1510 Will is our Bobbet family in Campsea Ash. 

Eileen, in Dr. Amy Harris's Bobbet list on Keith Bobbitt's web site, Continuing Research, page One are 2 Bobbett Wills in the right time period near the birth of William Bobbet born before 1558 Suffolk County, England, of whom we are researching to find his father.

1. William Bobbett, Barham, 1554-1557, Archdeaconry of Suffolk, Wills Barham is located 4 miles north of Ipswich.

2. John Bobbet, Melton, 1540-1543, Archdeaconry of Suffolk, Wills Melton is located 1 1/2 miles from Woodbridge

Please obtain these 2 Wills and transcribe them.  Thank you.

Regards,
Marsha
 

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Subject : Transcription of Will of John Bobbet of Ipswich in 1510
Date : Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:43:04 -0600
From : Eileen Sears
To : Marsha Berry
Cc : Eileen Sears
 

Hi Marsha,

I was intrigued in this will about the comment that John Bobbet was going to give his brother, Thomas Bobbett some land in Campesey, which I am guessing is Campsea-Ashe. He states that he got him from my lady Campesey.

I have looked at all the other wills that I have and have abstracted the genealogical information from them. It does not apear that any of them, except for the ones that I have emailed to you have any possible connection. There is one will left that I will transcribe - I hope to have it to you sometime this week.

 Thank you for the reminder of the genealogical facts that you know about your family. We have tried to look at parishes that are mentioned in the wills - and to date, nothing has panned out in that respect. I have a couple of more ideas that I will discuss with Nanette in the next few days.

Eileen

 

7-14-2009

Hello Eileen and Nanette,

 Nanette, thank you for the 2 Bobbet logs.  Please look in places not looked in your logs.

 Eilleen,  thank you for transcribing the Wills of Roger Bobbett of Ipswich, Thomas Bobbett of Ipswich, and Cecelye Bobbett of Blaxhall.
 

Please transcribe the other Wills you have so that way we have looked at all possible.

In Cecelye Bobbett's written 17 April 1577 Will, Probated September 1578, she has her nephew Robert Bobbett

she is giving her bay horse and 5 ewes [female sheep]. 

Cecelye Bobbett did not have brother William Bobbett in her Will, maybe either because she thought William was well taken care of in his Grundisburgh land or she favored the older brother.  Robert got land in Campsea Ash[e] and Marleforth because he gave up his lands in Grundisburgh.

 In his Uncle John Bobbet of Blaxhall's Probated 2 Feb 1576/1577 Will, William was cautioned not to harass his Uncle's Will executors about the trust gift of William's father.   What is that trust gift?  Probably the land, but it is not defined in Uncle John Bobbet's Will.

As we have not found a Will in Suffolk thus far previous to 1576/1577 that has in it only 2 sons Robert and William, it could be that their father died and possibly their mother died before a Will could be written.  Please keep looking.   

Please keep looking for documents in the 1540 to 1578 time period. 

You do not need to look in the extracted IGI christenings and marriages as Dr. Amy Harris and Kellie Scherbel and I have gone over and over that area. 

It has been proven by Dr. Amy Harris and I that William Bobbet chr 12 Aug 1647 Saint Mary, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England's parents are Willm Bobbet and Francisee.  It has been proven that Willm Bobbet chr 18 Oct 1610  Campsea Ashe, Suffolk, England's parents are John Bobbet and Margaret Edgare.  It has been proven that John Bobbet chr 20 Jan 1579 Grundisburgh, Suffolk, England's parents are William Bobbet and Katheryn.

I have the children of each of these families and a few spouses that have been proven by Dr. Amy Harris and myself.

Keith's and my immigrant ancestor Willaim Bobbet chr 12 Aug 1647 Saint Mary, Woodbridge, Suffolk, England [IGI extracted chr], left from Felixstowe, Suffolk, England,  in late or November 1673 on the flyboat "Martha"  with Shipmaster Abraham Wheelock who filed a Will 3 Aug 1673 becasue of the "dangers hazards," Public Records Office, London, England. 

Why was Willaim Bobbet born before or about 1558 in Suffolk County, England not christened in the Church of England?  Maybe hiis father and maybe mother died before the christening could be done.   Who knows about his older brother Robert Bobbet.  Was their father in a non-conformist church?
 

So many questions I have.

Thank you again for your great research Eileen and Nanette.  We should meet again and re-group after Eileen finishes transcribing the Wills.

Regards,

Marsha

 

Subject : research
Date : Sun, 12 Jul 2009 18:30:20 -0700 (PDT)
From : Nanette
To : Marsha Berry
 

Dear Marsha,

Eileen and I went to the FHL on Tuesday as planned. Eileen found some wills which she is working to transcribe. I located two wills and drew out names and relationships without making copies as they do not seem pertinent to our research. I also looked at several parish records. On Friday I returned to the library to follow up on some of our ideas. We thought to look at parish records for Burgh because that parish had been mentioned in John Bobbett's will. Nothing was found in Burgh. I did find some Bobbetts in other parishes who are not in the IGI. Eileen is hoping to find clues in the wills she is transcribing about where to search next.

I have attached copies of my recent research logs. Let us know if ideas come to you.

(On the current research logs I noted which names are not on New Family Search or the IGI. There are also such names on previous lists. I will let you know who they are when I see you.)

 Hope things are going well.

Sincerely,

Nanette

Subject : Today's research

Date : Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:10:39 -0600
From : Eileen Sears
To : Marsha Berry
Cc : Eileen Sears
 

Hi Marsha,

Today Nanette and I did a joint research day in Salt Lake. I believe that we have collected all the wills that are available from the microfilm. Some of the wills offered no obvious connection to your family line, so a genealogical abstract was made.

I am working on the transcription of some others - I hope to have some of them ready for you... [soon].

I will send the transcriptions in pdf format. When we meet again later on this summer, I will bring you a copy of the wills for your files.

Cheers,

Eileen

 

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